As a side note: blows my mind there are people over the age of 9 that persist in actually believing in tarot cards or astrology.
this post was submitted on 12 Dec 2023
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I use tarot and other divination methods (primarily the I-Ching/Book of Changes). It’s less about trying to get magical communication from some sort of magical realm or helper for me, it is more a way to organize my thoughts. Often times, the advice associated with each card is just generic good advice, and it prompts me to consider situations from other perspectives. I take some time to think about a problem facing me and use the cards as creative prompts for ways to solve that problem. No supernatural stuff involved.
Horoscopes are mostly just (hopefully!) good advice packaged in what can only be described as a crime against astronomy. They’re good to read, because they tell you what people want to be thinking about themselves.
The way that I think about these things is that it's like flipping a coin to make a decision. It doesn't really matter what the coin says, but if you feel happy or disappointed in the result, that tells you what you really need to know. Tarot's like that but with a bit more depth. The value from the reading is that it encourages introspection.
Yeah, that's how I use it too. Like sometimes, I feel like the cards are calling me out, but it's actually just me calling myself out.
It reminds me of how I give great advice to my friends that I may not always follow myself. Tarot feels like a way of getting distance between me, the advice giver, and me, the dumbass who desperately needs to follow the advice
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Well Intended Leftist: I want to do something productive for society.
Tankie: I want to bash you
To be fair, the tankie in this situation said they are bashing because no one wants to plow fields. You can't serve latte's if no one is doing the hard work of growing and transporting the coffee.
How about working the oil rig to supply the petroleum needed to ship coffee from South America? You'll probably lose a finger or two. Any unpaid volunteers?
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I want to do something productive for society.
Tarot
Yeah
I think I'd like to design the dodgy ad-hoc series of aqueducts that bring water from the nearby river to the commune. It will be like a daily task of building Rube Goldberg machines.
The Political Officer has conscripted you... to also make Rube Goldberg machines that smack Astrolgers and Psychics upside the head. Not a bad gig!
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Where is the line here? Art, music or writing fiction? Anything that isn't needed to keep 20 people alive? Or are we talking a society that is more than just surviving? Want to keep people tired and dirty, that's a good way make them shut up and submit I guess. I'm making my own commune, with black jack and hookers.
Entertainment can be labor. If someone is explicit and consistent about a tarot reading being just a game of make-believe then I suppose it's fine, but I doubt most people who would do tarot readings professionally would be about to pull it off with at least winking at their audience.
Entertainment (and the arts) would probably not have a large central component. I imagine many more people would engage with arts than today thanks to shorter work weeks. Set building and performances and the like would probably occur on a more local level.
There's definitely something cool about seeing a blockbuster movie with special effects, or an artistic film that makes deep points while showcasing actors at peak talent.
However, humans had oral tradition and just like people in robes acting for a long time. Our brains are probably better off with some storytelling that requires a little internal imagination and thought.
I guess what I'm getting at is, on my ideal commune the arts would be hobbies for everyone to enjoy and play a part in as they wish, not a "job" that constitutes pulling one's fair share.
In a way, modern tabletop gaming has filled that niche for a lot of people
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How does the community decide who gets to make art and how has to work making food and other tasks necessary for survival?
My dream job is that post I noticed the other day about "white guy doormen in Japan who greet women with hello princess!"
Either that or the "Loud American" position also in Japan that tells the boss they're doing something stupid. I seem to have recently developed a thing for Japan apparently lol
Either that or the "Loud American" position also in Japan that tells the boss they're doing something stupid.
Sorry bud, but this one might not be real.
I mean, it's probably not an actual job. It's just that "Westerners" are treated differently. So they are allowed to politely say "that doesn't make any sense" in Japanese society.
You would have to have a real job at the company and you may not become a manager.
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ascended dr. jade phd😇, @_jad...
whats your job on the leftist commune??
im gonna be leading discussion on theory some days, making clothes from scraps other days, and making lattes whenever needed.
Amtrak-Bidenism🚂🧭, @man_di...
political officer that beats the shit out of all the people who think reading tarot cards is labor
Good human! A Political Officer will not be visiting you anytime soon
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Defending people from tankies who think they have authority to tell others how to live.
It's pretty clear to me that it's attempting to destroy the misconception that some newer leftists have about Socialism and Communism, who have just learned about it and think it sounds great, but haven't actually dug into the structures and realised that while a lot of it is indeed great, it also takes a lot of work still.
Would it be tankie to bash whoever thinks reading tarot is labor, peacefully? Absolutely, but I think it's more tongue-in-cheek, and I actually think the original person the joke is replying to is also being tongue-in-cheek, to an extent.
At least, that's my non-tankie interpretation. Dirty jobs would absolutely exist, and while it would be likely that this work would be split amongst the broader workforce, the idea that people can get by without actually contributing what they legitimately can is Utopianism.
Did I read too far into this, for what very well could be a tankie being an absolute piece of shit for no reason? Yes, but I hope I'm right and both are decent people making sarcastic fun.
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