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[–] Superfool@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What are all those little tubes (bottles?) on his robe?

[–] speedbeef@lemmy.world 68 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They are tubes of measured gunpowder for muzzle loaders.

Edit: the tubes themselves are called gazyrs

[–] Superfool@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago
[–] Sleezy_Salesman@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Looks like they were used to hold bullets and premeasured powder. But they kind of just became a style.

https://www.rbth.com/lifestyle/332920-gazyr-cherkeska-cossack-caucasian-dress

[–] Superfool@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the link

Love the third picture down, with the lot cigarette waving around it Hopefully just a trend by then.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This photo sent me down a rabbit hole. I ended up learning about the conquest of the Cacusus and the genocide that occurred during it.

[–] Dazza@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

I got banned from reddit by linking that turkish genocide... I admit it was in a Turkish sub.. And I mentioned that turks in Europe get more kids as Europeans (which according to reddit is similar to genocide)

[–] WaterWaiver@aussie.zone 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

@PugJesus@lemmy.world do you have the source for this image? I'd love to find out more.

This version has been noticeably digitally altered, someone has used a clone or heal tool in the corners:

I assume the original photo or film must have holes or marks on it, they would be interesting to see.

I also have an (unconfirmed) suspicion that this image may have been a black and white photo that has been digitally colourised. It can't have been fully AI colourised as the flowers on the lady's dress are too perfectly coloured (even where they are hidden in folds or shadow). Alas the chroma of the flowers is shaped in perfect circles of pink, even overlapping black areas of the dress (where it's otherwise coloured slightly blue), making me suspect a round brush tool in an image editor:

I can't be 100% certain, there might be some other explanation for this chroma patterning. It's not JPEG (that quantises in square blocks, not circles). Might be some weird optical effects or multiple layers of JPEG on top of each other causing gaussian filtering (if you apply box filters repetitively at different offsets then you eventually approximate a gaussian). Not to mention that the version I downloaded is a .webp (and I have no experience with that format), I suspect Lemmy might have converted it upon upload.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] WaterWaiver@aussie.zone 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Thankyou muchly :) Looking now. They have unaltered originals too!

There are 3 separate glass slides for the different colour channels. Ooh. (is it healthy to get excited about this?)

EDIT: This collage of the 3 coloured slides is itself an edited version, but it shows answers to my questions:

They edited the left side with a clone tool to hide the fact some of the coloured slides/layers are a bit faded at the edges. This also explains why the left of the image is yellowish and the bottom reddish. Perhaps those slides were like that their entire life, uneven due to manufacture or developing issues?

Across the entire image are tiny coloured blips and scratches. Most of them were edited out.

The rounded shape of the chroma on the flowers isn't as evident in this version, but it still looks blurry. It's plausible that the super-round shape in OP's version of the image is an artefact from multiple lossy image encodings POSSIBLY combined with the red channel (glass slide) having worse resolution than the other colours in these areas (?).

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

This is the kind of quality content we need more of!

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Looks like a mother and son

[–] Lon3star@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

A man (27) and his wife (26), mother of 10

[–] Coherence@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

He looks like he’s about 12, she looks like she’s on the verge of 105. Interesting photo

[–] AnomalousBit@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago

Justin Timberlake confirmed time traveler

[–] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The whole of the caucaus is so interesting. Just all those cultures jam packed into one spot. Only other place I know of like it is PNG.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The Balkans are similarly diverse (despite efforts to murder everyone different since the age of the habsburgs).

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

JPEG is close

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago
[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

He's about to slay the cameraman.

Anyways great work.

[–] LavaPlanet@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

The body language between them both, tho.

[–] Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Why does that man look a lot like young Atatürk. So uncanny.

[–] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One of his eyes ain't lookin at me

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

And she has the eyes of George W. Bush

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The quality you can get with film never ceases to amaze me. I think the Oppenheimer movie poster was shot on film then scanned digitally, and the final image is like 11k pixels wide. There was also a 1980's music clip I saw the other day on YouTube that was labelled as remastered in 4k or something, and it looked great for a remaster. Turns out it was simply re-scanned with modern tools and since the original film was so crisp it was all that needed to be done. No AI enhancement bullshit and all that.

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

Rescanning with modern tools is the exact definition of a remaster - Going back to the original 'master' copy and using modern techniques to produce a newer, better version :-)

[–] LEONHART@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago

Kickass album cover.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That woman has some man hands.

What is that little tower thing in the background?

It’s funny to me that they would take some chairs outside to sit and pose, why not just stand?

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

1904 in Dagestan, did they still have the old "5min exposure" cameras?

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah that occurred to me. Still funny to see these chairs in these old photographs, in places which must have seemed even to them at the time as out of place.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

I guess I kinda just always figure the house is just off camera, like behind the camera man or 30ft to the right. It does look silly though lol.

[–] S_204@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago

Fuck Dagestan. All my homies hate those airport terrorizing Dagestanians.