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[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 89 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What we need to do is stop viewing men and women as separate entities that require different expectations and treatment. Hell, we should probably just chuck the entire construct of gender out the window as it serves no real purpose other than to pit groups of people against each other.

We can admit there are differences in biology, sex, and cultural expectations rather than live in fantasy land and paint with a brush so broad it covers literally everyone in existence.

How about we treat groups as individuals. Whether that be a man or woman. Chances are the problems effecting most men are issues other men face. Women that only women face. Then some that everyone does.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think this is absolutely the way to go for future generations (think genderless preschools/kindergartens) but I really don't think we can just flip a switch and undo millennia of gendered expectations. Although I really do appreciate the folks that try.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's extreme to say gender is inherently bad.

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[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but I really don’t think we can just flip a switch and undo millennia of gendered expectations.

Psychedelics make the brain flexible and this facilitates rapid cultural change.

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[–] DanglingFury@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How you gonna sell makeup and purses and shit unless they think they are not pretty? Gotta get them to sexualize themselves then get them to doubt their inherent beauty so they buy your products.

How you gonna sell guns and trucks and shit unless they think they are not manly.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=CgeEEFpnvZA&si=IdTezv7Mtjd1e1nK

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[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Can I just realize I am a human with weaknesses and strengths, loves and hates, bias and judgements but knows that if I am aware that the judgements and bias are there that I can set them aside to be fair to all when needed?

I don't really want to do drugs, even if they will open my brain to the universe. I'm not ready to deal with my shit right now. I'd rather just be nice to everyone except obvious assholes, who I will just keep at a distance for my own sake.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope strong psychedelics are mandatory now.

But seriously I am not by any means advocating psychedelics as any sort of solution to anything. My own experiences with psychedelics have not always been good and if folks don't think it's right for them they should absolutely trust that feeling.

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[–] z00s@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Sounds like you've already done the self realization bit, no need to do drugs

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Doesn't need to be anything as wild as peyote. Just get some psilocybin, some pals you haven't seen in a while, and have a talk. You'll come out of that with a deeper understanding of yourself. Fact is, for every toxic man that needs to do soul searching, there's a toxic woman. Perhaps, instead of pointing the finger at the opposite sex/gender/whatever, take people on a case by case basis. If they're important to you in your life, you can be the catalyst that causes them to take the first step towards self improvement. Empathy is extremely important.

[–] Corndog@ttrpg.network 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ego death is a hell of a thing.

Legalize Psilocybin and other hallucinogens.

[–] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

With all the promising studies, I’ve really wanted to give it a go but I grew up sheltered and have zero clue where to start or get it. Not to mention the trust issues after that. I’m really hoping they legalize it.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's super easy to grow, decriminalized in a number of US areas already, and I highly suggest you look into it. Uncle Ben's shelf stable precooked rice is a great, nearly-foolproof way to give it a go (~$1/bag = ¼lb of mushrooms or more).

edit: I should also mention that, from my own experience alone, microdosing has made my PTSD far more manageable on the daily, and I encourage everyone to find what helps them heal.

[–] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You sent me down a rabbit hole. Don’t even know what strain I’d start with but the process itself looks fascinating.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Golden Teacher is a good place to start.

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[–] numberfour002@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And then go to prison for being in possession of "narcotics" with "intent to distribute" because the police tested a bag of kitty litter and determined there was a trace of illegal drugs in it so the whole thing is cataloged as $10,000,000,000 USD worth of hardcord drugs.

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[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should do the same for shallow women.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should do the same for ~~shallow women~~ everyone.

[–] YonderCrawdad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, this stupid polarization shit needs to end for all groups not just those who feel the most victimized in the media.

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[–] Stanwich@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not here for your fucking needs

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[–] DahGangalang 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see how men being gentlemen and dealing with their inner demons are mutually exclusive

I do see peyote being the part that doesn't fit in though...

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Psychedelics can help you identify, understand, come to terms with accepting, and managing, the things about yourself you wouldn't otherwise. That begets the healthy self aware gentleman

[–] mekwall@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can also mess you up even worse

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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My wife says I'm great BUT I would be willing to do peyote under the stars anyway.

[–] tooclose104@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Sign me up, too, please!

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[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ a lot of y'all are taking this way too seriously

[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

did you pass out the psychedelics yet?

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, you are already on your trip.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Is this really a good idea with a mass unguided approach?

A small fraction of men today are facing their "deep cores of emptiness" and are totally unequipped to deal with that reality. They "don't return to the village humbled". They lash out in violent rage and frequently killing other people in the process.

[–] AlfredEinstein@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, this makes me want to go to the next Jan 6 type rally with some Merry Prankster dosed Punch.

I'll make a sign that says "FREE MAGAritas!"

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[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Copying from elsewhere:.

I am not by any means advocating psychedelics as any sort of solution to anything. My own experiences with psychedelics have not always been good and if folks don't think it's right for them they should absolutely trust that feeling.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeaaa, you go first, chief.

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[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Please don't do peyote. It's endangered. Go drink a san Pedro cactus instead.

[–] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Unless you grew it yourself from seed. But san pedro grows way faster, is more legal, and more common/cheaper, so just a better option for most people

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[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Will that humble me like peyote?

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Peyote definitely did not humble me

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

men bad women good

Is the vibe.

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[–] CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

A what now? I thought i was capable of speaking English.

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

no I'm too square and scared of mind altering substances (my grasp on reality is already quite tenuous)

[–] Selmafudd@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Stay that way if you can...

I had a pretty bad trip which resulted in an ego death. I'm not sure how I kept my job after it, I was basically a walking zombie for a good 2 months. Took about 18 months to connect back to reality and even now 7 years later I'm not the same person.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't mean to invalidate your experience at all but I don't think that's what people commonly think of when referring to "ego death". In my experience it's shorter and fades with the trip. Experiences that long sounds like it triggerered something. Are you familiar with depersonalization and rerealization? I've experienced something similar to those, unrelated to a trip, that lasted a few months.

I'm really sorry you had to navigate that. I've had (mostly) positive experiences with psychedelics but this is a good reminder to not recommend them freely.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I volunteer as tribute.

[–] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I can’t do hallucinogens anymore. Even ecstasy gives me a “bad trip”. I get all anxious and in my own head. I have to lock myself in a room by myself. I can’t smoke weed because it makes me super anxious. Micro-dosing is cool though.

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