politics

Personally, I'm very bitter about the completely awful effects of Reagan's tenure. Literally turned the office into a Hollywood act; you know damn well he wasn't calling the shots. He was there to draw people's attention.

If Drumpf gets a second term, I think he'll be going for the high score.

Trump/Kushner did try to weaponize the COVID response against blue regions that voted Democrat. That's pretty bad

Trump activity attempting to overthrow the Federal Government pushes him beyond Jackson. Moving the Southeast Tribes to Oklahoma was a fall out of the War of 1812 against the Tribes who joined the British. It doesn't remove how horrible that was. Moving so many people during a pandemic of Yellow Fever was inexcusable. Obviously Jackson didn't care.

I still think Trump attempts to overthrow the government is worse as well as losing 20 million jobs, making the Covid pandemic worse by inaction, and all his criminal activity.

I mean, among the most evil maybe, but he was successful in what he did at least.

Can't forget that Trump if anything killed millions not even because he was trying to, but outright negligence.

I'm surprised at the amount of disagreement your comment is getting.

I don't want to downplay Jackson's displacement of American Indians, but there was one real FUBAR thing Jackson did that no one remembers:

He paid off the national debt.

Completely and entirely. The federal government existed debt free for some months (I forget exactly how long, I want to say it was a year or so before borrowing exceeded income).

On the face of it, this probably sounds like a good thing, but it hard crashed the economy. Obv wasn't alive at the time, but it's my understanding that it was the worst economic disaster until the Great Depression (and The Great Depression was only worse because the country and world were far more connected than the world of Jackson's day).

That said, I hear inauguration party was a real rager.

The difference for me comes down to the relative power both men had. If the US had been the sole hyperpower on the planet, Jackson may well have out-Hitlered Hitler. If Trump’s administration wasn’t actively engaged in sabotaging his deranged orders to attack Venezuela and Iran, we’d probably still be at war. Trump exercised authority over 300M people and has, probably for the remainder of our lifetimes, permanently altered politics in the US and around the world, while Jackson’s ability, monster that he was, was constrained that the US was not a significant world power at the time.

Ok, the stock market is at a near record high right now, under Joe Biden. Does that mean Joe Biden is now the best president ever?

I wish I'd bought a new washer/dryer before he pissed off China with that pointless trade war. Prices doubled overnight and have not come back down.

Remember his trade wars with...everyone? And then he renegotiated the same agreements but worse?

Apparently, Trump had a beef with his National Security advisor, and that advisor was good friends with the admiral in charge of the pandemic office. So, to punish the Advisor, Trump closed down his buddy's office.

I just saw a headline that most Republicans think he should be the candidate regardless of if he gets convicted of his various crimes.

I didn't actually read it so take it with a grain of salt lol.