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[–] muertinez@lemmy.world 268 points 2 years ago (3 children)

i think people underestimate the impact having access to wikipedia has had on the world. really an amazingly important part of the internet and the sharing of knowledge

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Going down a Wikipedia rabbit hole is worse than going down a Street View rabbit hole. Ahh I can spend an entire day doing it!

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good old wiki walking, you never realize what you're doing until a few hours in, and even then you can't stop.

[–] matti@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 years ago

Or the high speed car chase equivalent of it, find hitler

[–] Bilbo@hobbit.world 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You're right, although if you ever get the chance to browse a real physical encyclopedia, it's a unique experience.

Not practical, but it's a bit like playing a record or playing a game on a real NES. It's a unique experience.

I have a full 2007 set of Encyclopedia Brittanica in the same room as my vintage computer collection. I browse it occasionally.

[–] 1st@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oof, felt this right in the geriatric millennials.

Mfer I was doing assignments where I had to scroll through index cards to find the encyclopaedia, then hand write out the essay.

It’s weird when you go from being the disruptor demographic to realising that when your 5 yo kid jokes about the 80s it’s as far away in time to him as the 1940s we’re to me - for him it’s a 2d, pre-Alexa, analog dystopia.

And I’m only 42.

[–] bigredcar@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I bought several physical encyclopedias as a a result of my Wikipedia addiction. Having physical encyclopedias to fall back on is a plus, as their information can't be taken down by deletionists. I also got the Encarta isos off archive.org running in 86box.

[–] mochi@lemdit.com 6 points 2 years ago

I got suckered by an encyclopedia salesman when I was younger. It was one of the biggest wastes of money of my young life. I had no need for it at that time and later, when I could have used it, I had the internet (or Internet with a capital I back then) and college libraries.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just love the fact that Jimmy Wales started Wikipedia using the money he made in softcore internet porn.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jimmy Wales does sound like a porn name.

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[–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 141 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I really enjoy Mastodon so much more than twitter

[–] moitoi@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The quality of the discussion is miles away from Twitter. People are nice and a lot less of toxicity. Mastodon is amazing as Lemmy.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There was a scientific paper I read semi recently that showed that researchers who post on Mastodon get much higher quality interaction than on Twitter (and I think a few other social-media type places, but it was mainly Mastodon vs Twitter). There was overall less interaction on Mastodon (unsurprisingly), but also that this difference has been diminishing as Mastodon grows. My takeaway is that if you want engagement, go Mastodon.

[–] moitoi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I highly prefer quality to quantity. It's better for then mental health.

[–] hansl@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Unpopular opinion? Mastodon is a better Twitter than Lemmy is a better Reddit.

So many duplicated communities in Lemmy makes managing subscription impossible.

[–] DooDeeDoo@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

Reddits quality main appeal also is its past threads whereas on Twitter is rarely about what was tweeted but rather what’s the latest thing that’s happening.

Lemmy will need time and it might never replace reddit. But I look forward to the quality interactions with everyone here!

[–] Dee@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Unpopular opinion? Mastodon is a better Twitter than Lemmy is a better Reddit.

That's not unpopular, that's just fact. I enjoy Lemmy but it's fairly new. Mastodon has been around for a while longer and is a much more mature platform with more QOL features because of that. Comparing them on that basis doesn't really prove or mean anything at this point. Of course the teenager is more developed than the toddler, that's how it works. Lemmy will get to the same place with time.

[–] JayPalm@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

From a product perspective, I really disagree.

Twitter’s value is/was that it was ubiquitous. Everyone (important) was there and it was the only Twitter-like thing that there was. Even the Pope tweets. I guarantee you the Pope will never be on Mastodon. Not that any of us necessarily care about updates from the Pope or Lebron James or whoever, but your favorite journalist was, and the developers of all your favorite indie iOS apps were, and if you live in a city, your local public transit authority was likely there as well. Twitter was really the only place for microblogging type of content.

On the other hand, Reddit is, by nature, just a centralized collection of forums, which I think is far more easily recreated in a decentralized way. You already have posts organized into communities, now with Lemmy we’re just adding another layer of organization on top of that. As another commenter said, much of Reddit’s value is that it was the place where someone asked the same question you now have and so you can read those answers, but Twitter’s value really is for real time communications.

The issue I see with both frankly is search. It can be kinda hard with either to find the community/discussions that are interesting and relevant to you, but hopefully that will improve.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I guarantee you the Pope will never be on Mastodon

Doubt that. Vatican uses Linux, if it gets popular enough they're for sure going to have their own Mastodon instance. When you're a big org like them, control matters more than dollar amounts. A recruiting and comms tool that they own end-to-end, except for the protocol (that they can block or mod anytime)? They'd love it. Having a Vatican.va Mastodon handle if you work for them would probably carry cachet with Catholics.

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[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They are not duplicated (just the same name) and it's not impossible to subscribe to them all with a few clicks.

Use https://lemmyverse.net/communities and simply search for communities and subscribe to them.

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[–] SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

How do you find good people to follow? There aren’t all too many meme or comedy accounts and that really all I’m looking for. It seems pretty serious on there unless I’m just being dumb. I’m on mastadon.social

I’m also seeing a bunch of posts not in English, sometimes nearly half so that gets annoying

[–] moitoi@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

You need to follow hashtags and groups related to your interest. Groups will boost the toots and make them visible. When you follow a group, it's like following hundreds of people at once.

When tooting, you have to mention groups and not only hashtags. The groups will boost the toot for visibility.

It's a vit of practice with groups and hashtags.

[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

It requires a bit of work, since there isn't an algorithm to do that for you.

I've been following hashtags for things I enjoy. #gaming, #videogames, #steamdeck, #android, etc.

[–] Stefh@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You should try changing instance. I started on mastodon.social and had the same problem as you. Find an instance that meets your interests and sign in. Then you can transfer your followers (only your followers, that's not really good 🫤)

[–] SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I can look around, thanks for the advice. Luckily I don’t post or anything so I don’t care about transferring accounts. Haven’t used it all too much

[–] mr_m00@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What server would you recommend starting? I joined mastodon.world and I have trouble looking for things I'm interested in to follow.

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[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 110 points 2 years ago

This is great to see. I love when big players make moves into the fediverse, because it educates the masses. I'm a nobody on the internet advocating for privacy, security, and ethical social media... and I can advocate til my fingers bleed.

But when companies, publications, celebrities, and others of influence do this, it creates awareness and opens their mind up a bit into the platforms, why they're important, etc. And even if they don't understand federation at first, at least it's a touchpoint. A bit of exposure into how we can have a better, open, and private web.

[–] arc@lemm.ee 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think all big orgs, NGOs, news agencies should do this.

[–] anarchist@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes! Also Governmemt agencies.

[–] TheKayneGame@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

The Dutch government had created a mastodon server

[–] Jarmer@slrpnk.net 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

that's excellent! I wonder if they'll keep their WT Social network going. Does anyone use it?

[–] clgoh@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't really use it, but I noticed that they just launched a new version. https://wts2.wt.social

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

I was wondering if they might port it to an ActivityPub instance

[–] coldv@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Ooooh!! This is exciting!

[–] Armadous@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just realized it’s fediverse, I’ve been reading it as frediverse.

[–] Dee@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There should be an instance of just Freds that's called the Frediverse. You have to send them ID to prove your name is actually Fred and only Freds are allowed on the instance. I'd follow those communities as a non-Fred.

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Cabeza2000@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I have a Mastodon account since May 2022 but didn't really use it.

I recently tried to see if I find interesting accounts to follow but didn't find much that fit my interests.

Any advice on how to find good accounts to follow?

[–] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 2 years ago

Search for hashtags first, like #TopicOfInterestToMe. Follow those. Then, look for people who post interesting stuff in the hashtags you follow. Follow them. The trick to Mastodon is to follow, follow, follow. This may also be a good starting point to find interesting people to follow: https://fedi.directory/

[–] TacoEvent@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Curating your follows does take a minute in the beginning. This is a good starting point: https://discover.fedified.com/

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's honestly kind of a short list of accounts, considering that most of the accounts listed there exist in multiple categories on the menu. And maybe this is just me being out of touch, but I didn't recognize a single person in any of the lists.

Mastodon really needs some help getting popular figures onto the platform. Hopefully Threads at least starts to open some opportunities in that regard once they begin federating.

[–] TacoEvent@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I don't disagree. You're probably unlikely to find the same people on Mastodon that you followed on Twitter or elsewhere. Despite the growth it's still a drop in the bucket of global social media users.

If it means anything, I started out with Mastodon hoping to follow popular figures and very quickly stopped caring for that. It was a lot more fun and interesting to talk to normal people with normal lives. But maybe that's just me.

Who're you hoping to follow? I might be able to recommend a few folks.

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[–] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

You follow the people that share the same interests than you. What are you interested in? What do you expect people suggest you? It is totally depended on what you have for hobbies or the topics you are interested in. If I tell you to follow a Football-Player, a local politician or a niche PCB Designer, what would that give you? Find out what things you are interested in and then find the people connected to those interests.

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[–] Treebeard@monero.town 10 points 2 years ago

Beautiful to see Wikipedia throwing their weight into it! Just beautiful to see this spiraling.

[–] nix@merv.news 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hope custom algorithms become an option. I like chronological feeds but would love to have chronological feeds that show me a post based on my likes after 3 posts or so. It would make it much easier to discover new blender artists like is possible on twitter

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