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I might move again. (Or not) (lemy.lol)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Octopus1348@lemy.lol to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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I moved from Lemmy.ml because I liked the name of Lemmy.world and it ran a newer Lemmy version which meant I could make communities. I moved from Lemmy.world because they defederated from piracy communities they didn't even host (but for some reason still kept the small piracy community they DID host) From thelemmy.club because I couldn't see the Hackintosh community from there (probably defederated) Now I spent some time looking on join-lemmy.org and checked out some instances and this (lemy.lol) instance seemed good, so I chose that.

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[–] Sky_Lobster@lemmy.world 80 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Honest question... What's the difference? I just signed up with .world without really doing much looking around first...

[–] MentalEdge@lemmy.world 70 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some instances are running on better servers than others, have staff that fix issues quicker and attend to updates sooner.

For example, .world is still on v18 while the rest of the threadiverse has mostly moved on to v19.

Some instances defederate certain other instances, so in some cases you might end up finding that a community you subbed to gets disappeared by the admins of your instance (lemmy.ml did this to ani.social a while back). Whether there are valid reasons goes case by case, sopuli.xyz for example blocks instances that are for porn, and I like it that way.

Though outward federation is a bit borked on there atm, so I'm using my alts...

But really, it doesn't matter that much. If the grass looks greener, you can hop over the fence and see for yourself, and then hop right back if it turns out it wasn't.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 17 points 2 years ago

While I'm not on world, I also hold off on upgrades. Lemmy is still Alpha, after all.

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I only moved from World because I wanted a smaller instance (and maybe because of stability). And from thelemmy.club because it blocked the Hackintosh community. And from lemmy.ml, which was my first one I moved because I heard the alligations that the admin was pro-chinese government.

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

"Allegations". Nice.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Moderation and politics. Many in Lemmy don't like ML's stance on issues, including banning and moderating dissenting opinions. World won't defederate from Threads. Etc. Despite no major user difference, Lemmy is a much more "active" vs passive community in reinforcing their beliefs in what's right. It's why many migrated here to begin with.

[–] TserriednichThe4th@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Threads?

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Meta's/Zuckerberg's microblogging service, also runs on Activity Pub (the protocol that allows instances of any given service to communicate with each other, basically the backbone protocol of the Fediverse).
Many Fediverse instances decided to defederate Threads because of who's behind it and because they're afraid Meta's ging to do to AP what Google did to XMPP.

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 51 points 2 years ago (7 children)

laughs in solarpunk

We are fucking tiny, and everyone as far as I know is federated with us because they can't be bothered. Our server is run well, though we do get a bit of unscheduled downtime (though the biggest one was due to a fucking hurricane)

[–] match@pawb.social 25 points 2 years ago

slrpnk.net 🤝 pawb.social

federated via apathy

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Everyone forgets about pawb.social too. Even furries seem to forget it exists lol.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Furries unite!

(we're not as ignored as yiffit.net though)

[–] wolfshadowheart@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago

I see both of these on all constantly.

[–] jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 4 points 2 years ago

Similar boat, private instances ftw

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[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i fucking love decentralized services

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

.ml works great for me. What problems did you have with it?

[–] stevehobbes@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Mostly the people running and modding it are insane.

[–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Thank God I don't give a fuck about Lemmy dramas. If it works and I like the content, I'll stay.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Oh you mean the communism?

I am communist

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[–] AteshgaRubyTeeth@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’ve created my account at .world, anything I missed? Seems to work fine for me

[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

They started defederating with piracy and trans instances and kept pushing a Discord server so I took off.

Oh and also Beehaw defederated with lemmy.world, and I wanted to see that content.

Second edit because I was reminded lemmy.world is still planning to federate with Threads, which I also wasn't okay with.

[–] AltheaHunter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago (8 children)

What trans instances have they defederated?

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[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

I had one of my posts on AskLemmy deleted for being "offensive". It was asking a silly question "Are Brits the Americans of Europe?". Some saw the lighthearted side. The professionally offended got it deleted.

Over-moderation will kill Lemmy instances. One of the reasons Reddit became as big as it did is due to very light-touch moderation verging on "absolute freedom of speech". It was refreshing and 'alternative' compared to the increasing sanitisation of the Internet.

Unfortunately Reddit-rotted Zoomers have jumped from the heavy-handed Reddit modding to Lemmy and will quickly fuck up any attempt to grow the platform. Because they don't remember/know how early Reddit worked.

They're trying to moderate Lemmy like it's a billion-user platform when it's a few hundred thousand.

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every platform should have some mechanism to remove troublesome moderators.

[–] The_Vampire@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The whole point of the Reddit-style was that subreddits could be controlled by moderators and prevented from slipping into the same old tired town square-esque mess that arrives with popularity. I guarantee a mechanism to remove moderators would result in niche communities that get a surge in popularity winding up with the original moderators ousted because all the newcomers don't understand the community.

If you don't like how a community is run, you can start your own for completely free. That's how this works, you shouldn't be able to commandeer a community from the people who started it. If there's a truly problematic moderator, the new community will grow quickly.

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[–] Anon819450514@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

Yup. The platform should feel alive.

I remember on Reddit when people were trying the limits and quirks of the algorithm, and you would wake up one day and your feed was filled with something totally unrelated. A few hours later and it went back to normal.

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[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I understand the issue of “it’s a Fediverse only if the network is diversified.” And “it’s difficult for new users to understand.” But if we also go down the path of making the system like a standard centralized network we defeat the purpose of the Fediverse.

Our issue isn’t a “we need to copycat our predecessors” it’s a “we need to explain how we work in a simple enough way no one could possibly misunderstand.”

I’ve tried various methods of explaining it, and I think the issue is half bad explanations and half a lack of interest.

We need to also start pressing our strengths. The Fediverse, as it’s nature of an AGPLv3 project, is ad free. We also don’t have the weight of megacorps deciding what is allowed to be shared because of said ad revenue.

Avoid talking about the technology. Boast our numbers, we’re 2 million strong on Lemmy and 14 million Fediverse wide. Avoid confusion, offer help, and press our advantages.

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[–] FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

what’s this supposed to mean? i’ve never had an issue with .ml

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

ML was the first instance, they created an account there first and jumped from instance to instance until they ended up where they are, leaving the original instance completely neglected. It's quite a literal interpretation of the meme format, which you don't often see.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Meh, just need to find an instance that seems friendly and stable enough then try to keep it afloat.

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 11 points 2 years ago

I think I'll stay here if there are no problems. That's why I used the word "might"

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Hexbear in the corner snom bridget-vibe duck-dance duane sicko-jammin penguin-dance niko-dance lea-caramelldansen club-penguin-dance mario-dance luigi-dance maxwell narukami-specialist-dance torture-dance susie-dance

[–] spaphy@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 years ago

You seem like you enjoy having fun. I like that.

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What the hell is happening

[–] bubbalu@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

join us charlie-clarify

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

Hexbear will always stay winning it's impossible for anyone to stop us bridget-pride-stay-mad

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[–] ComradeR@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I'm still on lemmy.ml instance since my first day here! And this is the only account I have.

We don't know what is going to happen tomorrow... But, at least for awhile, I have no regrets at all!

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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

(Cries in feddit.uk)

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I don't get it ._. Why move?

[–] ZeroTHM@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

"If you don't like how we do it, go make your own" is the biggest cop out.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

What we really need is an app with an ordered account list that allows you to view all the content from those accounts and when responding/contributing uses that order and picks the top one that is able to.

[–] __lone_eagle___@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

STOP IT... Get some Help

[–] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Lemmy.world has been very slow for me lately

[–] havid_dume@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

One of us. One of us.

[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh no :(

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 4 points 2 years ago

Why?

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