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[–] Klanky@sopuli.xyz 104 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 92 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Not now, Madeline!

[–] DannyMac@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I noticed you're still working with polymers.

[–] caesar_salad83@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago
[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Misleading name, on the same level as calling water "non-explosive hydrogen". That said the material looks promising, as a glass replacement for some applications (the text mentions a few of them, like armoured windows).

(It is not a metal; it's a ceramic, mostly oxygen with bits and bobs of aluminium and nitrogen. Interesting nonetheless, even if I'm picking on the name.)

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can I make a whale tank out of it?

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (5 children)

3 times as tough as steel and they're making bulletproof glass out of it...

There's a low budget pc game about colonizing Mars and this was one of the things in the tech tree

Crazy to see it as a real thing now.

Like OG aluminum, this is going to be crazy expensive at first, but in a century it'll likely be cheap and we'll see it replacing glass in the most mundane uses.

We'll see it replace phone screens pretty quickly tho. A few mm's of this and we'll have legitimately unbreakable screens, and even if a scratch happens, you should be able to just buff it out. They're probably wrap entire phones it honestly. One solid piece that makes repair impossible on your own.

[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Might be hard to assemble the functional part of a phone inside of a crystal, and you can't bake the whole thing because silicon isn't surviving 2000oC for 2 days.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but it was a lot harder to make regular aluminum back in the day as well.

Increasing ductility isn't impossible, but it probably is unlikely in this case.

But two halves that get glued/sealed together permanently would be possible.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do you think this would be more durable than tempered glass?

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[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wouldnt that stop the radio waves from reaching the phone, like a faraday cage?

[–] physicswizard@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Good question. This new material is technically a ceramic, not a metal, so I'd be inclined to say no. But we'd need more information on its electrical properties to say for sure.

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[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 46 points 1 year ago

The obtained material, which is molded and opaque, is heated to 2000 C and kept at this temperature for two days

Fuck that's a long time and a high temp

[–] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Transparent aluminum is so weird, a piece of it was once passed around our office. It felt heavier and colder than I expected, which I guess is probably because it's much denser than most types of glass (I think it's only comparable to optical glass so it would be close to holding a high quality glass lens) and it looks like the thermal conductivity is way higher.

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[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I had no idea this actually existed! Cool!

Here’s a more novice-friendly link: https://hackaday.com/2018/04/03/whats-the-deal-with-transparent-aluminum/

[–] OhmsLawn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Thanks for that. Really cool stuff.

"Aluminum oxynitride ceramics have been around since the 1980s, so it’s not new stuff by any means."

Says it costs 5X the price of standard bulletproof glass, but that it's far stronger, and IR-transparent. Cool material.

[–] ForestOrca@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Star trek comes to life, yet again.

[–] blargerer@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This one goes the other way. It was first patented in the 80s before the movie came out. It just wasn't a big thing yet. I assume it's had improved properties since then, but the process already existed.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately this is a time travel paradox. It wouldn't have even been patented if the crew hadn't gone back in time and needed it to transport a whale back to the future. I fully support the claim that Star Trek did it first in the future.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

So, just as predicted by the Hitchhiker's Guide, the problem begins with whales.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

The StarTrek episode with the transparent Aluminium was from 1986, transparent Aluminium was invented in 1985, but at this time they don't have the tecnologic measures to produce significant ammounts. Even today it's relative expensive to produce, ~$15 per Square inch.

[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This seems cool.

Also upvoted for the correct spelling of Aluminium

[–] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The original discoverer of the element spelled it "aluminum". The British publisher that published his work changed the spelling. The rest of the world got the right version of the man's work. The Brits are wrong.

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[–] teft@startrek.website 16 points 1 year ago

Scotty would be proud.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

FWIW, this has been around for about twenty years.

[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah of course, they learned it in the eighties to be able to rescue some whales I think..

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Would that make it a type of sapphire?

[–] teft@startrek.website 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Types of corundum maybe but I think that’s a stretch. Sapphire is (usually) blue Al2O3. Ruby is red Al2O3. Transparent aluminum is Al2O27N5.

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[–] sheepishly@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Looks like a cool new project for NileRed

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[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Aluminum oxynitride is transparent aluminum, but alpha aluminum oxide, which is also transparent, is called Corundum, Ruby, or Sapphire. That name is dumb.

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[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Transparisteel is real? Neat!

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is this bullshit? Is it April first or something? I actually checked, no kidding!

Scotty is going to be such a badass. I'm glad we have him to look forward to.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Sapphire and Ruby are also transparent aluminum.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It isn¡t but not so strange, even in Nature exist Transparent Aluminium, called Saphires and Rubies. It's called transparent Metal, because of it's atomic structure cristaline, not amorph like normal cristal of an Window. Metal, also Aluminium has a cristaline structure.

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[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It's amazing that LLMs have studied the internet for how humans write articles, and now they type like a fuckin SeO sPeCIaLiST

[–] Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Calm down Diana, your jet is a pipedream.

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[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Great, now my food will be wrapped in transparent aluminum

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Tests show that a laminated pane of ALON 1.6″ thick can stop a 50 caliber rifle round, something even 3.7″ of traditional “bullet-proof” glass can’t do.

Yeah that’ll really protect my food!

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