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[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 191 points 1 year ago (7 children)

If you can't remember the IP address of every site you'd like to visit, you don't deserve the internet.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 81 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh, you like the internet? Name every IP address!

[–] mons@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

0.0.0.0/0

Don't even get me started with IPv6!

[–] famfo@social.dn42.us 15 points 1 year ago
[–] Synthuir@lemmy.ml 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I know this one! All credit goes to FauxPseudo@lemmy.world

"^\s*((([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){7}([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){6}(:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}|((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3})|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){5}(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,2})|:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3})|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){4}(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,3})|((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4})?:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3}))|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){3}(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,4})|((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){0,2}:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3}))|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){2}(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,5})|((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){0,3}:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3}))|:))|(([0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}:){1}(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,6})|((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){0,4}:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3}))|:))|(:(((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){1,7})|((:[0-9A-Fa-f]{1,4}){0,5}:((25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])(\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])){3}))|:)))(%.+)?\s*$"
[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That is a forkbomb and you can't convince me otherwise

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

i dare you to run it

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[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Synthuir@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the heads up, let me know if it’s fixed now.

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[–] Klear@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago
[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unironically, I used to remember 3.
2 for servers with internet radios and 1 for google. But I forgot. Except 149.13.0.82.

[–] hihellobyeoh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember 1 of the Google dns ones, only because when trouble shooting network issues it is my go to ip to ping so I know the instant I am connected again.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

Oh, I forgot about DNS servers. Then I remember:
8.8.8.8 - Google
9.9.9.9 - Quad9
1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 - Regular Cloudflare
1.1.1.2 and 1.0.0.2 - Cloudflare "Malware blocking"
1.1.1.3 and 1.0.0.3 - Cloudflare "Malware and adult content blocking"
45.90.30.180 and 45.90.28.180 - NextDNS

And I think 2960:fe::fe is also Quad9, but I'll have to check. Nope, it's 2620:fe::fe. So just the ones above.

[–] Mixel@szmer.info 5 points 1 year ago

Always have a few paperstickers with My favourite webpages.

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[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 53 points 1 year ago (8 children)
[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Holy crap, this ... This ... Is very accurate...

[–] pruneaue 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why are catboys/girls and furries always the best at explaining stuff succinctly?? Lmao

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

They run the internet now so they really know how it works.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe that skill is how they end up with suspiciously high amounts of money.

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[–] youngGoku@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

That's a cat who knows his networks

[–] ajmaxwell@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Thank you for this

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[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Tbh, if you can't tap out Ethernet frames with a Morse key and decode the response by watching the blinking of an LED wired to the RX pair then you really don't deserve to be on the internet. Git Gud.

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Okey, I don't get it. What's wrong with DNS?

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When it breaks, it isn't always obvious or easy to fix, but can cause problems for anything that has to talk to anything else. The biggest thorn it puts in my side is that short names [ThisPC] are served differently than fqdn [ThisPC.MyDomain.com]. Does NotMyApp use short or FQDN to resolve other machines? I don't find out until the Wireshark.

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Okey, I understand this is fundamental and when not working can cause the service to stop working. But I don't yet know how does it break or is not easy to troubleshoot?

Haven't hosted anything big yet, so I always just had to check the records via "dig" command if they are served correctly.

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

DNS setups can get fairly complicated with enterprise VPNs and stuff, but the main thing is probably just that DNS is built entirely around caching, so when something does go wrong or you’re trying to update something it’s easy for there to be a stale value somewhere. It’s also really fundamental, so when it breaks it can break anything.

Overall, though, DNS isn’t terribly complex. It’s mostly just a key-value store with some caching. Running your own nameservers is pretty cool and will give you a much better understanding of how it all fits together and scales.

[–] evranch@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Really annoying is when recent devices don't respect the DNS you're advertising or allow configuration (Android...)

My site is behind CGNAT on IPv4 with recently added fully routed IPv6. There are legacy control devices all over it that don't speak IPv6, with local DNS records that allow them to be readily accessed while walking around with a mobile device... Allowed them to be accessed that is, until IPv6.

The Android IPv6 stack ignores the RA for my local DNS and also resolves via v6 by default, forwarding local queries upstream and returning no results. Then it doesn't bother to fall back to v4. Unrooted Android has no exposed configuration for IPv6 of any sort to modify its behaviour, no hosts file to override or any way I can see to fix this. I can't even disable IPv6 on my phone.

So to access my local devices from Android I need to use their full IPv4 address or VPN back into my own network... Oh wait, the stack is so broken that despite setting DNS in Wireguard, it still tries to resolve through upstream v6 first!

Apparently recent smart TVs are doing similar even on IPv4, hard-coded to 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8 to dodge ad blocking, which is plain malicious and ignores all standards...

So anyways this is why DNS is dragon #3

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[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My prediction is that we'll go DNSSEC globally when IPv6 gets mainstream adoption. It sucks how many just don't care enough.

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

when IPv6 gets mainstream adoption

At the current speed that would approximately be in 2087.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 20 points 1 year ago

Whoa there, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

[–] risencode@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

when IPv6 gets mainstream adoption.

After my death then. Alright, carry on.

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The abysmal adoption of DNSSEC is just embarrassing, and I haven’t heard any good arguments for why we shouldn’t do it. There’s one blog post that gets passed around as justification for not adopting DNSSEC, but it doesn’t really go into any technical detail and is mostly just the author saying “I’m scared of governments and TLDs”… which is maybe fair, but you still have to trust them for regular CA certs and everything, so why not make thr base secure?

Honestly, I might care slightly more about DNSSEC than IPv6 adoption… IPv4 exhaustion and NATing everywhere sucks, but the fact that you can’t trust DNS is like… insane.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I use pigeons and let the wind tell me where to send them.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

[–] callyral@pawb.social 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

Are you trying to... copyright your comment? IPoAC existed prior to your comment.

[–] jw13@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s not even a license, just an abbreviation that people may, or may not, be familiar with.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

This might be funnier than all those Facebook accounts with warnings about "I do not authorize anyone to use my photos!"

Because they're trying to copyright an internet comment that they posted on a service hosted by someone else, with a creative commons license attached. It's like a step up in knowing how shit works, but still not knowing enough.

If you really want ownership over what you say.... don't post it on the fucking internet.

[–] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 18 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I mean, not really. You own the stuff you create regardless of who's hosting it. Microsoft doesn't own the copyright for the millions of projects hosted on GitHub either.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use pigeons and let the wind tell me where to send them.

So is other guy gonna sue me now and win because I just copy and pasted what they said? This is a joke.

[–] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, probably not. That's such a short post, chances are courts wouldn't find it copyrightable. And obviously attaching a license at the end of your comments is useless in practice, because no one on the internet actually properly engages with copyright law. Plus suing over copy-pasting someone's social media post is dumb as hell and no one does that, tho I do think you could technically do it and win, because current copyright laws make zero sense if you actually stop and think about it for any amount of time.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

current copyright laws make zero sense if you actually stop and think about it for any amount of time.

So true.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 10 points 1 year ago

My lawyers will argue that this willful infringement of my rights as the orignal author of the famous 1997 Internet comment "So true" means that you now owe me $4000000 in damages, but I'll settle for one bitcoin.

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[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

Wait lol are people posting that to their comments to use it as claimed ownership? I did not realize that was the intent there

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] mactan@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no doubt in my mind that there's some subset of the suckless crowd that thinks dns is bloat

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We should remove all those useless microservices! /s

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's insecure, which lets governments like China poison it. They straight up block encrypted DNS

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[–] famfo@social.dn42.us 17 points 1 year ago

As we all know, it's always DNS.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Lol ... DNS is one of the pillars upon which the internets tands, a crumbling mess of a pillar but I'm sure glad we don't have a name system built on hosts files 😹

[–] madargon@is-a.cat 9 points 1 year ago

@scroll_responsibly Laughing in my self-hosted services, on my VPS which use only IP address :blobcatjoy:​

*Currently every service is also available via IPv6 :3

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