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Trump sought and actively tried to subvert constitutional government and overturn the results of the presidential election. And what he could not do through the arcane rules and procedures of the Electoral College, he tried to do through the threat of brute force, carried out by an actual mob.

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[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's an asshole sir.

I know that, what's his name?

That is his name. Asshole. Major asshole.

[–] oddsys@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm surrounded by assholes

[–] Cynicivity@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How many assholes do we have on this ship, anyway?

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

"What are those assholes doing here?"

"Honey... it's pronounced azaleas."

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll take modern fascists for $200, Alex.

... the daily double...!

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

pew pew pew pew pew pew

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

He’s an insurrectionist. So, no need to bother answering.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

He is in Colorado. That was an indisputable finding of fact.

Some people (read: complete fucking idiots) think he’s a patriot.

[–] EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

A wannabe Autocrat

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it antidemocratic to disqualify Trump from office and deny him a place on the ballot?

Third parties are often denied ballot access. Is that antidemocratic?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago

If you can't cough up the fee (typically $100 or less for most state and local offices) and get several dozen people to sign your nominating papers (varies somewhat by state and office) you're wasting your time running in the first place.

The big reason we don't see third parties doing well in the US is that the bulk of the country uses first-past-the-post general elections. These mean that a vote for a third party candidate hurts the people most apt to implement the policies you care about.

Three cases:


Case 1:

D - 10 votes, R - 9 votes, I - 0 votes

Democrat wins


Case 2:

D - 9 votes, R - 9 votes, I - 1 vote

Tied election and a coin toss used to decide winner


Case 3:

D - 8 votes, R - 9 votes, I - 2 votes

Republican wins

[–] kbal@fedia.io 5 points 1 year ago

A failed tyrant with a bad haircut?

[–] pl_woah@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

The one possible out is that he hasn't been completely convicted of the crimes involved yet. I really hope he is soon. It worries me that he might get some court to say "no, he's not been charged, put him back on the ballot", and then he is, and then they go "no double jeopardy on taking him off the ballot, we went over this"

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Last month, the states of Colorado and Maine moved to disqualify Donald Trump as a candidate in the 2024 presidential election, citing Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

In response, Trump has asked the Supreme Court to intervene on his behalf in the Colorado case and he has appealed Maine’s decision.

Trump, the committee wrote, “unlawfully pressured State officials and legislators to change the results of the election in their States.” He “oversaw an effort to obtain and transmit false electoral certificates to Congress and the National Archives.” He “summoned tens of thousands of supporters to Washington for January 6th,” the day Congress was slated to certify the election results, and “instructed them to march to the Capitol” so that they could “ ‘take back’ their country.’ ” He even sent a message on Twitter attacking his vice president, Mike Pence, knowing full well that “a violent attack on the Capitol was underway.”

Under a plain reading of Section 3 — and given the evidence uncovered by the Jan. 6 committee — Trump cannot stand for the presidency of the United States or any other federal office, for that matter.

It would also invite Trump’s allies in the Republican Party to do the same to Democrats, weaponizing Section 3 and disqualifying candidates for any number of reasons.

And while it will be tempting to attribute this outcome to the ideological composition of the court — as well as the fact that Trump appointed three of its nine members — I think it will, if it happens, have as much to do with the zone of exception that exists around the former president.


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It doesn't matter how much he lies about it and the rest of the right wing media lies about it he's an insurrectionist. It doesn't matter how much they lie about climate change it still exists and humans are the cause. It doesn't matter how much they lie they are for family values when they only want to get the religious right on board and control women. This is nothing new in their approach and has been going on for decades. There's a reason Fox news was created after Nixon and it was to do stuff like this.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A narcissist, a thief, a liar, a bully, an overgrown child...

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

And an insurrectionist

[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

A cock holster?

[–] HowMany@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the 50s he'd have been called a commie traitor. Because of Russia and that period of our relations - which were bad. and all. And back then we used to fry traitors and spies pretty much on the spot. Before they could do too much damage. We're kind of "too late" with trump the traitor it seems.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Trump's guide Roy Cohen literally helped Joseph McCarthy start the red scare and the velvet purge despite he himself being a "friend of Dorothy"