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I often hear, "You should never cheap out on a good office chair, shoes, underpants, backpack etc.." but what are some items that you would feel OK to cheap out on?

This can by anything from items such as: expensive clothing brands to general groceries.

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[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 100 points 1 year ago (11 children)

All your basic staples: salt, flour, oil, sugar, pasta, pasta, milk, eggs etc. There's literally nothing to do better or worse, so for god's sake don't pay for the label. Fancy olive oil is nicer, and fancy butter for actually putting on bread is nice too - but for cooking, cheap the hell out.

Get your spices from an Indian / Asian / etc grocer - you can get a huge bag for the price of a tiny supermarket jar, and because they have so much turnover, they'll be plenty fresh.

Store-brand laundry detergent and dishwasher tablets work just fine for me (and dear god you can save a lot on those).

[–] marron12@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (17 children)

All your basic staples: salt, flour, oil, sugar, pasta, pasta, milk, eggs

It depends. Cheap salt is just fine. And flour, unless you're into baking. But some things can make a difference and you don't necessarily have to pay a lot more for it.

Pasta, for example. Bronze cut pasta absorbs sauce a lot better than "normal" pasta. It looks dull, rough, and pale as opposed to shiny and smooth. It usually only costs a buck or two more. I find it's a big step up taste and texture-wise.

Or butter. The ones without natural flavor taste better. Sometimes it's the store brand that doesn't have added flavor.

And eggs. Orange yolks are way better than the pale yellow ones. But those you do have to shell out for.

[–] GombeenSysadmin@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait wait wait. Your butter has flavouring added? Like, I realise I’m spoiled here in Ireland, but fuck mei can’t even picture what that might be

[–] smoochie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was my exact reaction! But butter is literally nothing but churned cream and possibly salt added? If there's anything else added, such as water or any kinds of oils, it's no longer butter. I get more scared every time I learn something new about US food culture....

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[–] SpaghettiYeti@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Flour - disagree. King Arthur for baking vs your basic supermarket crap is a tangible taste and texture difference in baking. While you're at it, get a mill and buy organic wheat berries and save money for higher quality l, more nutritious flour. It's literally cheaper to get better quality if you are willing to mill it.

Butter- Same for butter if you're using butter as a spread. It's ok to use cheap stuff in cooking but if it's the main complementary flavor, like butter on toast, treat yo self to some Kerry Gold.

[–] demesisx 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You’re absolutely wrong about flour. There’s a huge difference in flours (besides the cursory fact that most wheat undergoes a process called desiccation which is literally spraying it with roundup).

I’ll take my glyphosate-free wheat and corn and I won’t be cheaping out thank you very much, Toxic Avenger.

You are also missing the FACT that the other essentials you name are also badly polluted with chemicals that medical science has yet to understand.

[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Be careful with cheap spices, some of them (like turmeric) can be laced with lead and other nasty stuff to make them more attractive.

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[–] pastel_de_airfryer@lemmy.eco.br 94 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Smartphones. Most people don't need to buy the latest and greatest iPhone every year.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Going to respectfully disagree here. Outside of my glasses, my phone is the tool I use most often, many times daily. It's worth getting a quality device, and if there's an issue with the current one (battery, cracked screen etc) it's worth replacing. But you're right, it doesn't need replacing just for the sake of newness.

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[–] guywithadeathwish@lemmy.wtf 21 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I second this, especially with Android you can breath new life into a phone by installing a custom ROM

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[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I'm on my phone 8 hours a day. Quality counts. Slow is bad. Lacking features is bad. Crappy cameras are bad. Get a good phone. Use it until one of the following happens:

  • It no longer gets security updates
  • There is a new built-in hardware feature that will actually improve the quality of your life because you've been wanting it forever
  • You break it or the battery performance starts to suck too much.
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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Don't tell people that!

I always get a refurbished phone which are last years model that someone traded in when they got the newest and greatest thing. If people stopped doing this I might have to actually shell out for a new phone!

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[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 73 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Medicine: the branded stuff is normally exactly the same but many times the price.

[–] gigachad@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When I go to the pharmacy I always ask for the cheapest generic drug product of Ibuprofen or whatever I need, it's a couple of euroes cheaper.

[–] Che_Donkey@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not that drugs are expensive in the EU compared to the US....not even relatively close!

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Over the counter stuff in the EU does tend to be more expensive here than the US in my experience. Definitely here in the Netherlands but also noticed this in Spain and Germany.

One thing the US is good about is selling you a huge fucking bottle of something like Ibuprofen for basically nothing. Here in the NL they really like only selling you a 12 pack of it for the same price. It's annoying as shit.

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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I switched to the store brand breakfast cereals. Never going back to Kellogg's again. The store brand ones near me are so good. And they're made with better ingredients like cane sugar over corn syrup and shit.

[–] CraigeryTheKid@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree, even the ingredients part, except referring to color/flavor additives.

But cane sugar is an utter "word trick" that means absolute nothing. It is just as processed, and is exactly as good for you, as corn syrup. It's an example of "health theater" that companies do with labeling.

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[–] MicrowavedTea 38 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Not sure if this applies to the US but for most things you buy from a supermarket the generic supermarket brand is usually just as good or even better than the big brands. And it's usually much cheaper.

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[–] Devi@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fashion clothes, if you're getting something that you'll wear for one summer and then never again then Primark is fine.

Salt, sugar, most herbs and spices, it's all the same stuff regardless of brands

Some snacks, often crisps are the same Aldi own brand as Walkers or whatever, or they're perfectly good. Yes we all want some kettle chips sometimes but it's all good, same for jelly sweets, a lot of chocolate, etc.

Hobbies for beginners, if you want to take up knitting then start with a cheap kit and upgrade as you get more serious.

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hobbies for beginners, if you want to take up knitting then start with a cheap kit and upgrade as you get more serious.

This is the big one. If you're starting a new hobby, it's easy to fall into the trap of buying loads of expensive kit because it's shiny and new. Buy the cheaper versions first and learn what you actually need. If you need to upgrade then, at least you know what to buy.

Obviously this doesn't apply to safety kit πŸ‘

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[–] owen@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Cell phone. A $200 android is extremely fast these days

[–] MonsieurArchi@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Replying to you from a cheap fast Android phone.

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[–] dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Store brand foods are good a lot of times. They used to be garbage, but nowadays they're pretty good.

Frozen veggies instead of fresh is usually okay if you're steaming or roasting.

Automotive parts off Amazon have worked alright; Rebuilt my suspension for, like, $120. That's tie rod, sway bar, shocks, and struts. No issues for the two years since that repair.

A ton of hobbies have perfectly respectable aliexpress alternatives. Keycaps, Fountain pens, 3d printer parts. They rob intellectual property, but I like linux ISOs, so I don't exactly have a history of respecting that type of property.

Software in general can be cheaped out on; I don't think I need to champion FOSS on here.

Refrigerators and washing machines can be cheaped out on, as long as you do a bit of research about their reliability.

Lots of stuff is easy to DIY if you have some work space. Furniture, fish tanks, thermonuclear warheads. Learning to sew is valuable, not because you should make your own clothes -fuck that- but because you can mend the stitching on your current clothes.

Services can usually be cheaped out on. Youtube videos and a can-do attitude can get you through manicures and toilet repairs. Court clerks will sometimes be willing to walk you through basic legal stuff like name changes. Things you should educate yourself about beyond a short youtube video: Electricity, flammability (from heat sources), and anything involving significant pressure (pistons, compressed air, and power washers, mostly.).Also be a little careful with chemical reactions: cement hardening, for example, will produce a bit of heat. Usually this isn't a big deal and you can ignore it, but there have been idiots.The world's information is at your disposal. Provided you've got some common sense, and you never fuck around with the capacitor in a microwave, you should be fine.

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[–] solitaire 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Most people could cheap out on tools and they'd still last. The average person just doesn't use the ones they own very often or work them particularly hard. Really, you're going to know if your usage will require higher quality tools and it's not the average techbro posting on /r/buyitforlife.

Backpacks are similar. If you're just using one lightly loaded for an urban commute there is nothing wrong with cheaping out. Spending more is really for people who are wearing them hard and filling them to capacity.

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[–] J4g2F@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I "just" moved and now taking care of the garden. I want a small vegetable garden (again) in raised beds.

You have a lot of raised beds kits the cheapest ones are €40 and more expensive ones are €90. I however used pallet collar's at €5 a piece. You don't even have to screw them together just put them down. For some custom size beds I use free pallets. They do take some work however.

Give them one treatment with linseed oil and you can use them for years. They live longer then the cheap kits and just a bit shorter then expensive ones. (Hardwood probably out life them)

Kits for vegetable gardens are most of the time really overpriced. Raised beds kits, tool kits and so on.

If you want high quality tools buy them of course, but starter kits are most of the time just the cheapest ones at a premium. Want hardwood raised beds, just buy wood and not a kit.

I suggest start on the cheap side, see if it your hobby. Buy cheap tools they already least long enough and if they break you know that you maybe want to invest in a premium one. Because you use that tool really often. (Second hand old tools are sometimes a better option of course)

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[–] mydude@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

-Any clothing/toys for children can be bought second hand, we have a very good site for that in Norway. For example, we bought 8kg of Legos, very reasonable price. Re-use is very popular in Norway.

-If you change food you eat often, it's very important to do some reaserch on the nutrition and sugar.

-Any locally grown food should be supported by bying, if possible.

-Much electronics can also be bought second hand in Norway, since we have strong consumer protection laws. Breakdown on electronic can be repaired within 5 years, usually. But, only if the seller has the receipt.

-Jewelry and stuff isn't nessesary, but buying cheap can be a nagging feeling and perhaps just buy something else for the person you love. Like an experience, trip to the massage/restaurant/etc. Spending time together is much more romantic anyways.

-Don't cheap out on the bed/mattress, you spend about 1/3 of you life there.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah, definitely don't overspend on kid's clothes. First, they don't really care that much and they're going to end up ruining them anyway. And second, they grow out of them so quickly, you're buying new clothes in 6 months anyway.

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[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some experiences/adventures can be had for little money. Not for free. But I'd prefer a walk through nature, or a visit to an Irish village at the coast over an expensive guided tour through Dublin.

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[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 20 points 1 year ago

Decorations, jeweleries, basically any nonfunctional items, things that you can live without it, things that you don't have to "use".

[–] vinhill@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago

Buying previous generation products. I got something like a Braun series 5 instead of the newest series 9, as there isn't that much difference.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I'm not sure I'd call this "cheaping out" but unless you can't even afford that or you have a specific reason you need a more expensive one, you should buy mid-range ($200 - $400) phones. The early '10s are over and mid-range is more than adequate for the average phone user. Plus quite a few mid-ranges still have expandable storage and/or headphone jacks.

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[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

If you want a good printer, look for an ex-lease laser printer. It may not be suitable for a whole department to use any more, but good enough for an individual.

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[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Alcohol that you are supplying at an event. You should always have a good case of beer or wine, or spirits, or the appropriate refreshment for your honored guests, but anything beyond 1st/2nd round should be the cheapest hooch on the planet and it should run out fast. Every social gathering seems to attract booze hounds that will suck you dry, no need to pay premium dollar for their habit.

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[–] LoveSausage@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Buy used stuff and learn by doing. Computer upgrades, smartphone repairs, cars to some extent and a ton of other stuff

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Decent T-shirts can be had cheap from craft shops. If bought on sale, can be less than $4 each. They come in the normal variations, and one can get various weights online. They also come in a wide variety of colors. Additionally, they don't have visible logos.

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[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

One of the big ones for me is non denim pants. I went through a phase where I got into somewhat more expensive clothes for a bit. Not like flashy stuff, but like just like presumably high quality stuff that wasn't so mass produced and in many cases, specifically made in the the US.

Well for some reason or another a bunch of the pants I bought in that period of time just did not hold up at all. Lots of various problems including buttons falling off, seams splitting, holes in pockets. And not just from one brand either.

Well I buy pants from places like H&M now and they all last me a long time. I've got pants I've owned for 5+ years and worn quite a lot and they're still in great condition. And I paid like $30 for them.

Maybe I had bad luck with the nice pants back then, idk. But the price/value equation does not work out for me whatsoever. I've had somewhat similar experiences with casual button down shirts. My Uniqlo shirts have held up a lot longer than shirts I've spent like 3-5x the money for. But it hasn't been as extreme as my experience with nicer pants.

Stuff like shoes and jackets on the other hand, I prefer to spend a little more for quality.

[–] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Free computer operating systems are great these days.

I regularly spend hours designing electronics to be cheaper. Not worse -- just cheaper. Electronic components sometimes vary in price by two orders of magnitude for the same performance, so it's worth cramming datasheets in your head as a professional or hobbyist.

For tools, I've found good midrange Chinese brands, and stuck to them. I could never afford things like Tektronix and so on.

I don't strictly require clothing to be cheap, but I do require it to be fungible -- this works out similarly though. When I find something that's good value for money and looks good, I buy a bunch and rotate them. That way I don't have to think about what to wear, and it always looks decent.

I also prefer cheap laptops. I don't need a supercomputer to work. When I do need a supercomputer, I rent one from google cloud for a few dollars an hour.

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[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Most things. Clothes, cookware, phones, TV's, etc.

I would say only spend money to buy things you're passionate about. I love cooking and have spent some money on quality ingredients. Buy good spices and pans, erc. But I hardly spend money on clothing or vehicles or phones, etc.

[–] Rob@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Soap of any kind. It’s fine if you want a certain smell, but at the end of the day it all works the same. Goes for hand soap, shampoo, detergent, body wash, etc.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with all of that, but shampoo. A bad shampoo will absolutely destroy your hair, particularly if you have long hair.

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[–] naun@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My sensitive, eczema-prone skin say, "No."

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[–] cathyk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mascara. I’ve spent $20+ dollars a few times for some high-end Sephora brands, but I’ve never thought they were any better than the $8 Maybelline I can get at the grocery store.

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