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    [–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    It’s easy.

    Escape to exit edit mode : to prefix a command
    q to quit
    ! to confirm

    Now emacs… those people are crazy.

    [–] CubitOom 17 points 1 year ago

    Asking someone to quit emacs when they never tried before is a great method to generate random strings for a secure password.

    [–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I used emacs when I first started programming because it was what my dad showed me and I always thought it was easier than vim. Then I used a bunch of other things for a while and mostly use vim now and whenever I try to use emacs I am so confused because it makes so much less sense than vim after actually using both

    [–] CubitOom 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    You could always use emacs with evil-mode to have vim key bindings

    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Evil mode, I like that 🀣🀣🀣.

    For me vi was my first experience with it.

    So yeah, I think it’s often about what you’re used to

    [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

    ! = Force

    Meaning quit without saving. If no changes have been made, you can :q and that will work. If you've fumbled and made any change to the file, you'll need the ! to get it to quit without saving.

    [–] JoMomma@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I've always preferred vi commands, they make sense and are mostly abbreviations or regex, all the other editors have the strangest commands...

    To write and quit in vi :wq

    To write and quit in nano: ctrl-o, confirmation dialog about tmp files, ctrl-x, confirmation dialog about exiting... weird feeling that I didn't actually save the file... reopen, okay it saved, ctrl-x, confirmation dialog, weird feeling that I accidently edited the file...

    [–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

    I used nano for years until I forced myself to learn the basics of vi(m), now whenever something opens nano by default it annoys me and I immediately change the editor to vim πŸ˜‚

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    [–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] pirrrrrrrr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    WQ = Write and Quit Q! = quit and do nothing else

    Multiline cut, copy, paste is where I forget commands.

    Multiline cut

    I just use visual edit mode. Or 5yy for copy 5 lines. Paste is easy - p.

    I'm shit at navigating and anything with the "g" command. I never bothered learning that.

    [–] callyral@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago

    with Emacs you're never out of Control

    [–] capital@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I just reboot. Is that not right?

    [–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

    No you have to shut off from the main circuit breaker, that is the only way to make sure

    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

    It's fine if it works for you πŸ‘.

    [–] OpenStars@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago

    It's a rite of passage! I had to learn it so now you do too! Why, when I was young I used to have to walk to school, uphill both ways, in the snow... :-P

    [–] Mango@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I manufacture the material for those suits!

    Edit: I can tell that they're the real thing too. I'm surprised they wouldn't just use a prop. These things are $1600 each!

    [–] owen@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

    That's very cool. And I think the studios rent this kind of stuff

    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Shit, really? They went all in for the movie, huh... it's a great movie BTW.

    [–] Mango@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)
    [–] ame@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    no. NO. I LEFT THAT MINDVIRUS BEHIND IN 2021 YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME

    Does not protect against cognitohazards

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    [–] ccdfa@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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    [–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    But I wanted to save that :(

    [–] sleep_walker@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    How to exit Vim? C-x C-c and follow instructions...

    [–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I feel like Emacs is going to suffer with the prevalence of window managers that are shortcut heavy. I looked at learning Emacs but the keyboard shortcuts all interfere with Awesome so it's a nightmare. The only way I'd manage is by switching TTY to terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F-key which kinda ruins it!

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    [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Do people use esc for this? It's so far out of the way. Ctrl-c is the "correct" way.

    [–] Opisek@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    C-c is incredibly uncomfortable and bad for your carpal tunnels. What people actually do is remap Esc to Caps-Lock and vice-versa. Nobody needs Caps-Lock in such a prominent spot. Alternatively you remap it to Ctrl, then C-c becomes viable, too.

    If in doubt, ^Z

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