Political Memes

If they hand you a gun and tell you to march off to die in a foreign land, turn the gun around on your killer.

Why don't Presidents fight the war? Why do they always send the poor?

Millennials volunteered for Iraq.

Before World War I and World War II, many thought things would not escalate until we realised it was far too late. The British intelligence thought the assassination of Franz Ferdinand would only be contained regionally instead of escalating to a world war.

Most wars are class wars and most issues are class issues. But most people are not class conscious. The base tribalism is instead drummed up to distract us from the real root cause. We're seeing the rise of the far right in many countries such as in Europe, US and India. Most of the rise of the right is due to influx of migrants, who are displaced by neocolonial foreign policies of corporate backed governments and capitalism-induced global warming.

You'd be amazed what some good old fashion propaganda will do for you.

The US was so gung-ho after 9-11 they accidentally attacked the wrong country. I know they didn't have any problem getting troops or buy-in from the people of all ages. It was pretty disgusting how quickly your average citizen bought into the bull-shit the Bush administration was selling when it was obviously a lie.

This sentiment of 'I'm not going to fight' is funny until the war actually starts. And then it's either you fight early, or you fight late. Sometimes too late.

I mean it definitely depends on the circumstances. If Russia attacks here then I'm absolutely fighting.

As long as they are recruiting the dumbest and poorest from your failing high-schools you'll always have enough for your wars.

Millennial here. Can confirm, I'll be staying home and doing my own thing. One live isn't worth more then another and I'm not going to war. If you're going to put me in jail because I refuse, then maybe I need to find a different country to live in.

I'll defend my country, but I'm not going to engage in an armed conflict overseas.

IMO, as long as it's not directly threatening me and my life, then I will simply see another WW as old people who are angry at other old people, sending me off to die for their grudge.

No thanks chief. Stick me in prison if you're so inclined but I'm not about to kill some poor kid I've never met and I don't have anything against, just because you can't use your words.

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So...they are going to send gen x and gen alpha?

Between propaganda and indecision, a whole generation will learn of conscription.

Nah fuck ya'll Ima sign up if we have an enemy worth fighting for the first time in my life. I'll push the lines to Moscow, Beijing, idgaf: dictatorships will destroy us all if left unchecked, make life not worth living for everyone. The whole time I'm deployed I'm going to be using absentee ballots, and if I make it back I'm gonna use my new cred to run for office and fight the corporations, too.

I would defect to the afterlife before fighting a war for this country.

Hey if anyone’s a lawyer or knows what they’re talking about what’s the current consensus or constitutionality of conscription in the US? I think it’s illegal under the 13th amendment (which literally bans servitude AKA forced service) and the only court case I could find had the opinion of “well everyone else does it!”

If that is an option for a western liberal state but it isnt an option for an authoritarian state, guess which state will win. And then it wont be an option anywhere.

You have to fight for your rights. And authoritarian states know that your attitude is prevalent and they intend to exploit it.

Now you might say "but of course i will defend against an invasion". Well, what about an invasion next door? What about a tiny landgrab of let's say 50sqkm. Would you willing to die for such a small piece of land? This kind of "small" infractions and hybrid warfare is how Ukraine almost lost its entire country.

And this isnt a "Russia" thing, it is an "everywhere thing".

Hitler did the same, he didnt go from the start "you know, everything is ours". No, they just went to help some ethnic germans in Czechia, then took a break(Munich Agreement). Then went to help some germans in Poland and took a break(Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact). And since they were winning and those damn russians might attack them, they might as well attack first. But such a campaign would require a lot of resources and to secure their flank, so i guess the germans needed to grab a few more countries too.

Strongmen and authoritarians only respect and understand power. Anything else appears as weakness to them. If you are not willing to use violence and they are, then you will lose. Even if you dont lose now, you will lose in the future.

PS And no, people wont "rise up" against an authoritarian government. Thats not how things work.

I'm too old, I'm bipolar, and honestly I'm not scared to shit my pants and/or dress if necessary.