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[–] OneCardboardBox@lemmy.sdf.org 192 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Sorry, what's .Net again?

The runtime? You mean .Net, or .Net Core, or .Net Framework? Oh, you mean a web framework in .Net. Was that Asp.Net or AspNetcore?

Remind me why we let the "Can't call it Windows 9" company design our enterprise language?

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Can't call it Windows 9

But that actually made sense! They care about backwards compatibility.

For those not in the know: some legacy software checked if the OS name began with "Windows 9" to differentiate between 95 and future versions.

[–] puttputt@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago

The reason they checked that it started with "Windows 9" was because it worked for "Windows 95" and "Windows 98"

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

An often repeated urban legend that has no basis in reality. Software checking the version of Windows gets "6.1" for Windows 7 and "6.2" for Windows 8. The marketing name doesn't matter and is different.

[–] dan@upvote.au 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

some legacy software checked if the OS name began with "Windows 9" to differentiate between 95 and future versions.

This is a myth. Windows doesn't even have an API to give you the marketing name of the OS. Internally, Windows 95 is version 4.0 and Windows 98 is 4.1. The API to get the version returns the major and minor version separately, so to check for Windows 95 you'd check if majorVersion = 4 and minorVersion = 0.

Edit: This is the return type from the API: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/winnt/ns-winnt-osversioninfoexa

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[–] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

And for the same reason they went straight from ~~2.1~~ 3.x to 5.0 when they renamed .Net Core to just .Net. Versions ~~3.x and~~ 4.x would have been too easy to confuse (either manually or programmatically) with the old .Net Framework versions that were still in use, especially for Desktop applications.

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[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

.net core is not a thing anymore in case somebody it's not aware, now is just .net. (unless you use really old version of course).

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Pfnic@feddit.ch 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have the same issue with Java. Oracle JDK, Open JDK or some other weird distribution? Enteprise Servers or a Framework like Springboot? It's always easier if you're familiar with the technology.

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[–] kogasa@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I really don't think it's that bad. The only weird thing is .NET Core becoming just .NET in version 5.

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[–] neutron@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I scream silently everytime.

[–] coloredgrayscale@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

May I introduce you to Usb 3.x renaming?

3.0, 3.1Gen1, 3.2Gen1, 3.2Gen1x1 are the 5Gbps version.

3.1Gen2, 3.2Gen2, 3.2Gen1x2, 3.2Gen2x1 are the 10Gbps version.

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[–] envelope@kbin.social 141 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Given that .net was a TLD long before the framework came out, it was a stupid thing to name it. Caused confusion and the inability to Google things right away.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 85 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Microsoft names many things stupidly.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Microsoft Azure Blob

(Yes it's a real product they market)

[–] eerongal@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, blob (and object storage in general) has been used as a term for a long time. It isn't particularly new, and MS didn't invent it.

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[–] arschfidel@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] masinko@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

To prevent confusion, I call them "VS Code" and "Visual Studio IDE", because if you say Visual Studio, people assume you mean Visual Studio Code.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And renames a random product every month, following a restructuring it's licensing

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

At least they don't control the most popular code hosting site along with the most popular code editing software, right? Right?

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[–] jwt@programming.dev 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's like naming your company x

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[–] NaibofTabr 36 points 1 year ago

Like naming a new TLD .zip!

[–] pelya@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was pretty smart marketing move. Business people hear 'dot net' and nod wisely. Tech people hear 'dot net' and scrunch their faces. Either way people keep talking about Microsoft Java.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

That aligns with their fucked up naming conventions anyway.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 130 points 1 year ago

No, you'll need to contact Kim Dotcom. I am merely Kim Dotnet.

[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 79 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ok, but we all should admit: .net is a terrible name.

[–] neutron@thelemmy.club 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then there's .net classic and .net core. Making up two entirely separate names shouldn't be difficult for marketing executives.

[–] dan@upvote.au 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

.NET Core doesn't exist any more. It's just .NET now. I think that changed around the release of .NET 5?

The classic version is mostly legacy at this point too.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Just because it's no longer supported doesn't mean there's not some poor intern refactoring spaghetti backend in a basement somewhere using it.

[–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 1 year ago

Sure, but you can still find plenty of info on it by searching for .NET Framework or .NET 4.6. All the documentation is still available. Its just not in the spotlight any more.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 year ago

Still better than .dot

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I totally agree.socialmedia

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can, but due to the extra strains involved the price of this contract will increase.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How many strains does it take to develop using .net? Are we talking high end or ditch weed?

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't even remember what dumb shit Trump was showing this guy.

[–] nelly_man@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

It was an interview with Jonathan Swan about COVID-19 where Trump had a bunch of papers with graphs trying to show that the US was doing well with cases. The paper he handed over showed the rates of deaths per case (though Trump didn't seem to understand the graph), and Swan was asking him about the high rate of deaths in the US when looking at the total population of the country.

https://youtu.be/NmrEfQG6pIg

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Man, if the media was worth a damn it could absolutely bury Trump in negative campaign ads. It's one thing to run a single valid negative campaign ad. With Trump you could collect them like fucking pokemon.

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You'd need over 30x the amount of total pokemon to match the amount of lies he's told as president

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[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can but we’ll need to re negotiate my salary.

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

But we’re an EDU!!!!

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