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A lot of Redditors hate the Reddit IPO | Reddit warned us that its users were a risk factor, and boy do they sound excited about shorting its stock.::Reddit seems like a likely candidate for a meme stock. But the actual reaction suggests that r/WallStreetBets isn’t going to send the stock to the moon.

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[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 259 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Reminder that shorting is a high risk play and you should never make investment decisions out of spite.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 211 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.

[–] kernelle@0d.gs 28 points 1 year ago

Holy shit put that on a t-shirt

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 80 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A reminder that the stock market and any kind of high level money market of any kind including digital money .... is a rich man's game where poor are by design destined to lose.

[–] JDubbleu@programming.dev 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a gross over simplification. Yes, rich people can have higher risk tolerance, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't be going long on index funds and otherwise safe, low risk investments for retirement with what they can afford to.

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[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Instructions unclear, purchased Lemmy stock using Amazon gift cards

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

¡Alert! Your Lemmy account may be suspended in 2 days unless you send Google Play gift card codes to me right now!

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago
[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, I only have Steam Gift cards... 😕

[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

DO NOT REDEEM!!

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[–] debounced@kbin.run 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100%, this is a trap being set for retail investors... not touching this even if I had a 1000ft pole.

[–] OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What if you had a 1001ft pole?

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[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Playing the stock market at all is a form of gambling. You should never gamble money you aren't completely willing to lose.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And with shorting there's no upper limit to what you can lose.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 152 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And while Huffman now thinks that Reddit as a corpus of training data for AI is valuable, he let his board member Sam Altman siphon off Reddit data for free; Altman was, and still is, the CEO of OpenAI. Altman’s also Reddit’s third-largest shareholder and owns more than twice as many shares as Huffman. Altman was the CEO of Reddit for eight days.

Say what now

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huffman also made $193 million bucks, according to the article.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

How much is a dollar buck in USD?

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 16 points 1 year ago

It's equivalent to four quarter dollar bucks.

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[–] ominouslemon@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Holy crap I did not know that! This is huge

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 87 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nobody’s doing shit with this stock.

It’s all a manufactured cover story for hedge fund/institutional manipulation to blame retail for volatility and attempted fleecing.

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[–] ghewl@lemmy.world 86 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Also this scrambling to make Reddit "profitable" and fucking Spez pays himself nearly $200 million a year. Fucking ridiculous. Burn it down. Build something better that hasn't been captured by complete twats.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Nintendo CEO cutting his salary in half to avoid laying off workers after the Wii U fails versus whatever the fuck Reddit is doing

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Satoru Iwata was a treasure.

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[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I hate Huffman as much as the next guy, but the $193 million factoid is misleading clickbait nonsense. His actual salary is apparently $400k, the rest is "stock value" or whatever. Reddit is not giving 25% of its yearly revenue to the CEO.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This argument is oft repeated but It's Bullshit. If it wasn't valuable why is Spez okay with it?

Stock grants not being direct Income isn't clickbait nonsense. It's actually DELIBERATE: Spez doesn't pay income taxes on a majority of his income. Capital gains tax has a lot of loopholes that can be exploited.

This just gives spez more money and he can cash out in the IPO.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

While I also feel like the past is better left in the past, I am certainly not above a little schadenfreude, either.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

Leopards ate my face. They are acting like this is a new betrayal that needs stopping. These are the same people who were telling us the 3rd party app changes aren't a big deal.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I don’t get why, if these people hate Reddit so much and they want the IPO to fail, why are they still using the platform?

Once people get burned with that stock purchase email, they are going to have even more pissed off users.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

FOMO.

Kept me on Reddit for a lot longer than it should have.

[–] Lionheart_xa@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As someone on wsb and totally going to short the stock. They named the sub in their Ipo and that we were going to short the shit out of them.

I think it would be rude not to deliver on said promise. Honestly from what I've gathered on the wsb discord we kinda just wanna see reddit on fire. At least that's the general sentiment I've perceived.

Also the main thought has been that as soon as they IPO they're gonna get their board taken over and kick us out first thing.

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit's owners are the risk factor.

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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)
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[–] spider@lemmy.nz 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Does anyone remember this?

Reddit hackers demand $4.5 million ransom and API pricing changes

Still waiting -- and hoping -- for the other shoe to drop.

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This feels like another "Netflix are coming after password sharing, HOW DARE THEY, EVERYONE WILL CANCEL AND THEY WILL BE BANKRUPT IN 6 MONTHS" circlejerk we recently read.

Then Netflix announces a pretty good quarter and all of a sudden these people are silent.

This feels like it'll be that. I could be wrong. But it really feels like the echo camber will lose its mind again in a few months when the stock is priced above zero and maybe actually doing quite well.

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reddit warned us that its users were a risk factor

This means they're positioning themselves solely as a source of training data. If their users are a risk factor, not the entire product, they're completely uninterested in maintaining a user base and think that what they have is all they'll ever need to sell.

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[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Predicting the long-term results of the reddit IPO is tricky, because it involves two large groups of highly irrational actors. 'Tis a silly place.

I speculate (hope) it will go very poorly for them. But anything could happen. They might fail upwards and print money.

Will be interesting to watch.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a feeling that if a pump and dump happens, all the people who are actually involved (who aren't already rich) will have their funds completely taken from them and the companies behind it will claim it as an attempt to stop fraud or some other bullshit they know is fake news.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A la GameStop. The rich won't let you play their own game.

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[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Company goes on the stock market so anyone can buy stock in that company.

Usually means that said company makes a ton of money but also have to keep these new investors happy and make the company more profitable. Can often lead to enshitification.

[–] Ad4mWayn3@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Is there a case where it actually hasn't led to enshitification?

[–] Mathmango@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Has always led to enshittification

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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