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Seems anticompetitive
"Seems" really isn't necessary. It's apple.
"threat" is just competition, right?
Fine 'em, EU!
The question is when the US government is going to take any measures against them.
Apple is not that strong in the EU but I think in the US it controls more than 50% of the market and your authorities are simply closing their eyes in front of their anti competitive practices.
Well, there was recently a judgement on both Apple and Google anticompetitive practices having to do with app stores. Somehow apple won theirs, despite their apps being completely locked to their store while Google lost theirs despite always having supported side loading apps and other app stores already existing. The US legal system is a joke.
Our anti-competitive practitioners are buying judges as well as new laws.
“More recently, you have described our DMA compliance as ‘hot garbage,’ a ‘horror show,’ and a ‘devious new instance of Malicious Compliance.’ And you have complained about what you called ‘Junk Fees’ and ‘Apple taxes.”
I’m sorry, but this exchange is just plain hilarious to me. 🤣 It reads like a recording between a couple going through an acrimonious divorce.
I don't particularly care for Epic, but this is some gatekeeping bullshit from Apple.
Same old...
Apple just isn't good at playing this "control an entire industry" game as its contemporaries like Microsoft.
It's "embrace, extend, extinguish". But apples play seems to be more like the five stages of grief.
- denial, the eu won't ever force us to do a thing, we're Apple! They wouldn't.
- anger, <- we are here
- barginning
- depression
- acceptance.
They'll never reach acceptance. Maybe court-ordered compliance, but never true acceptance.
The court rulings better cover every way Apple could avoid compliance.
Maybe a lawyer could tear this apart and find loopholes, but the law should be so simple as to say:
"A company providing mobile computing services and products, being hardware, software, or networking, shall allow under all circumstances and without restriction, the installation and usage of applications from all sources."
But of course, I'm not a Lawyer, so there's probably a loophole to be found in that.
I love seeing these two assholes fight.
I think this is good though. Another data point of Apple not allowing true competition on their platform. Oh, you want your own app store? BAM! You're banned. Especially now that it seemed Epic was gonna comply with this last set of ridiculous rules.
We might get a proper way to sideload if they keep this up. We'll see...
The EU has already told Apple they have to allow side loading of apps. Probably won't help anyone in the United States but maybe you can get California on it, as they seem to like copying EU law.
I think it's only third party appstores for now. That's why I'm hoping this will encourage stricter regulation
I wish them both the worst of luck.
Didn't Epic just win an anticompetitive lawsuit against Google, off the back of losing a similar anticompetitive lawsuit against Apple?
Methinks they'll be coming back for round 2, and this will be the provocation that will give Epic a win. Regardless of your thoughts and feelings on Epic, I think we can agree that Apple is a shitty company and they could do with an L.
Every company you mentioned in your comment is a shitty company that could do with an L.
What’s wrong Apple? Afraid of some actual competition?
Yes. As always.
Please eat each other.
Press release from Epic including the correspondence between Epic and Apple: https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/news/apple-terminated-epic-s-developer-account
I love the rending of clothes and gnashing of teeth.
If Apple really said their decision was partly based on Epic calling them out on their DMA plans then it seems it should be a pretty easy win in court. Apple would literally be meaning "if you say bad things about us we'll cancel your account." I know private companies aren't bound by the first amendment but surely that can't be legal.
I dunno. Isn’t this kind of like being banned from a sport? Nobody has a right to participate in someone else’s game.
No
EU comission just said NEIN.