Just overall a very funny comment in regards to Israel.
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I greatly enjoy that Biden is this way.
When he was campaigning, he was in an interview about Turkey, and he said more or less if Erdoğan gets out of line we might have to get rid of him. Then he realized what he said wasn't a "say out loud" type of statement, and tried to walk it back by saying well, I don't mean with a coup or anything, just, you know, we'll have to see what we can do. Which only made it 10 times worse. The US press didn't really notice but it was a shit storm in the central-Asian press for like 6 months.
But the thing is, every US president has thoughts and plans like that. I'm not saying it or the neoliberal empire are good things. I'm just saying that Biden has those thoughts and then sometimes actually says them out loud which I actually prefer over the "I'm so self-aware that every statement is preanalyzed and often kind of indirect" Washington standard.
Biden has those thoughts and then sometimes actually says them out loud which I actually prefer over the "I'm so self-aware that every statement is preanalyzed and often kind of indirect" Washington standard.
Which is something that MAGAs say they like about Trump, but they're always trying to cover for his most outrageous nonsense by saying "no, that's not what he meant." And in actuality, what he really does is say what he thinks will get the most applause at the time; and sometimes he overshoots.
Whereas with this, it's like...reasonable stuff that has been caught slipping out of Biden's mouth, just reasonable stuff that most politicians won't say.
Though I have to say, I really wish some reasonable stuff about a cease-fire and stopping arms shipments would've slipped out a few months ago.
Which is something that MAGAs say they like about Trump
Yeah. With Trump it's a little different. I actually get it kind of. He's authentic to himself in a way most politicians are not. He's just a big fat mean asshole who likes shouting and cheeseburgers and raw-dogging porn stars. He doesn't like paying taxes and he doesn't like smart people who try to get one over on him. For the most part, what you see is what you get.
I think a lot of rural America has an absolute hatred for Washington, because Washington for the most part hasn't given a fuck what happened to them for the last 50 years. And I think they see Trump, and say well, he's an asshole, but he's not one of those weird plastic people who've been stealing from my pension fund and making sure my health insurance doesn't work, and he seems to hate them too and not afraid to get violent with them. Hey, that sounds pretty fuckin' good from where I'm standing. He's got my vote.
I'm not saying their assessment of the impact of Trump on their pension fund is accurate. But their read of him as a person, I think, is actually the root cause of why they like him and I think that part is true.
Though I have to say, I really wish some reasonable stuff about a cease-fire and stopping arms shipments would've slipped out a few months ago.
Yes. 😢
their read of him as a person, I think, is actually the root cause of why they like him
Yeah. They want a strong man to hurt all of the people that the alt-right media has told them are the cause of their problems. Only...
he's not one of those weird plastic people who've been stealing from my pension fund and making sure my health insurance doesn't work,
...is the exact opposite of true (he's plastic, but angry plastic instead of bland plastic). Which brings me to...
He's authentic to himself
I don't think he is, though. I don't even think he knows what that would look like. I don't think he likes giving speeches, he just likes applause. I don't think he wants to be president (and I don't think he did in 2016 or 2020 either), he's just terrified of what'll happen if he's not in the limelight anymore. I don't think he likes Coca-Cola or Big Macs, I think he just does whatever will make the person/people in front of him say how great he is. I don't think he has a self outside of what other people tell him it is.
Incidentally, that's why he has a quarter million indictments.
he's plastic, but angry plastic instead of bland plastic
Oh, I wasn't saying he was honest. He presents himself as smart and rich, which is flaming bullshit. I think some of his followers believe him about that, but that's not why they like him; there are plenty of genuinely smart and rich people they despise.
The awful neoliberal suit-wearing jerks are one kind of asshole who's hurting their financial futures and the communities their kids have to live in, and they know that. But absolutely you're right; Trump is something much, much worse and much more dark, and they're making a terrifying mistake by supporting him just because he is (genuinely, and with real authenticity) not one of those people.
You may get this then:
https://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about
After all these years, I've never read anything that explains Trump supports so perfectly.
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I think they see Trump, and say well, he’s an asshole, but he’s not one of those weird plastic people who’ve been stealing from my pension fund and making sure my health insurance doesn’t work, and he seems to hate them too and not afraid to get violent with them. Hey, that sounds pretty fuckin’ good from where I’m standing. He’s got my vote.
Rural Americans by and large don't have pensions anymore if in fact they ever did, and they've been thoroughly brainwashed to believe that their insurance worked better back when you could be kicked off your plan for costing too much and be blacklisted from getting any in the first place if you had a pre-existing condition. No, the thing that they liked about Trump was that he said he hated all the people they hated too, and he gave them license to speak their hate aloud after decades of being told that they were bad people if they hated somebody because of some indelible feature of their origin or identity.
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Though I have to say, I really wish some reasonable stuff about a cease-fire and stopping arms shipments would’ve slipped out a few months ago.
Lol, was about to comment something similar. He should have been publicly calling for a cease fire the second Israel made it clear they will murder civilians
I mean, even Trudeau put his foot in it with his "I think we need an immediate cease--uh, cease-cessation of--a...we need to see the firing cease..."
If Biden had done something like that, this would've been over before Christmas.
I'm an idiot when I talk to people all day everyday. The gaffs in speech aren't what I care about. I care that Biden kept publicly supporting Israel for so long.
To your last point, compare and contrast with Obama, whose speech patterns were chock-full of long pauses where you could just tell he was doing higher-order political math on the next phrase. To an extent that's because that's what Obama had to do or else the Hannities and Carlsons of the world would find some minute quibble they could build out into an elaborate conspiracy with which to fan the right-wing outrage machines for another week... but for all the other problems I have with the man I do appreciate the no-fucks-given mindset Biden's brought to the job. The right wing media hate machine has become fully decoupled from reality at this point; there's no reason to soft-shoe around things that might set them off anymore.
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I get down voted here for saying that sometimes Joe Biden's mouth gets out in front of his brain. But it's so, so true.
What i find funny about that is..isn't that the case for all "normal" people? Happens quite often to me and a few of my friends and acquaintances. I like Biden because he actually could be just a normal, run of the mill grandpa. He's had his fair share of loss, he knows stuff and has a lot of general life expectancy...
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An aide to Biden then appeared to inform the president that his microphone was still on.
“I’m on a hot mic here,” Biden replied. “Good. That’s good.”
The irony is funny, but that is a common idiom in english speaking countries. Biden isn't literally going to speak to Netanyahu about converting to Christianity as if he's some sort of political missionary.
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"hot mic"
If he's still selling them weapons for genocide and still running interference for them at the UN, he is still supporting genocide.
Biden needs to stop supporting genocide. Biden needs to have a come to Jesus moment.
I'm not getting the come to Jesus thing ... what does it mean?
You've received several responses but the meaningful "come to Jesus" story actually relates to Saul (Paul, who is responsible for much of Christianity) on the road to Damascus.
Paul was persecuting primitive Christians and while he was traveling to Damascus to arrest them, he was temporarily blinded by divine intervention that led to his conversion and stopped him from continuing to persecute people. The dramatic intervention disabused him of the errant beliefs that caused him to injure people, in other words.
See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle
That's what the comparison is talking about. It's a metaphor that relates to needing a dramatic and often violent wakeup call to snap someone out of doing something wrong. From a Christian perspective you can see how Paul being shaken up enough to change his name, religion, profession, etc was a real "come to Jesus" moment.
That's the key context I think you're asking about. It's not really about converting to Christianity. It's more about having a BIG wakeup call that you're on the wrong path (literally in Paul's case) and you need to change your ways because you're hurting people (or you'll stay blinded if you're Paul I guess).
Hope that helps!
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It's an idiom or phrase that means he's going to yell at Netanyahu and possibly set an ultimatum.
I understand the meaning. What i dont get is the idiom.
As far as i know (and i am not religious) Jesus only got furious once, at people trying to make money off god and always talked about mans free will
It's a moment of realization that makes you change your ways. It's just really awkward phrasing since Netanyahu is a secular Jew.
https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/come-to-jesus/
Just as finding Jesus is said to save a person’s soul, a come-to-Jesus meeting or moment results in new, though difficult, understanding or behavior (i.e., changing one’s ways).
By the the 1990s, the expression had become familiar enough to stand for such a meeting or moment all on its a own (e.g., Our son needs a come to Jesus about doing well in school or People need a come to Jesus about their smartphone addiction).
Come to Jesus is often seen as a business or workplace cliché. Supervisors, for instance, may have a come to Jesus meeting with employees if performance needs serious correction. Come-to-Jesus moment won Forbes’ magazine’s cheeky 2013 Jargon Madness competition, which pitted overused corporate buzzwords against each other à la March Madness basketball brackets.
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That’s how idioms ofter are: there’s nothing to get, only to know.
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I award him no credit for this. Same as we find out Republicans who privately despite Trump but publicly defend him.
On purpose accident?
Ah yes, like how you said we were supposed to have the ceasefire on Monday after you knew the uncommitted vote was coming.
Fuck you.
That’s actually hilarious.
Other than sanctions and cutting off trade, what kind of pressure can the world put on Netanyahu to stop the madness in Gaza?
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Yeah good luck with that, I'm not certain Bibi is all that interested in what Jesus would have to say on the matter.
Supply Side Jesus.
Biden is going to extol the virtues of exploitation over eradication.
This is basically the capitalist model for foreign policy.
It was also the basis of the Roman empire.
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