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The federal judge assigned to the election fraud case against former President Donald Trump stands out as one of the toughest punishers of rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol

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[–] Darkhoof@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hope she goes to town on the orange turd.

[–] GentlemanLoser@reddthat.com 20 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] yoz@aussie.zone 3 points 2 years ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[–] Darkhoof@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

And without lube. I stand by what I said.

[–] moosh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

mmm, nummy.

[–] Boddhisatva@kbin.social 41 points 2 years ago (4 children)

So, if Donnie is convicted of instigating the Jan-6 insurrection, could they they hit him with Felony Murder charges? People died as a direct result of the insurrection and D.C. has a Felony Murder rule.

[–] glassblock@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think the chain of causation would be a step too far removed. He isn't indicted for instigating the riots, but for the conspiracy around rigging the electoral count. The riots are implicated as one tool to pressure Pence. Sicknick's death would also be another step removed in that it is not as clear that it was a direct result of the riots (or at least it could be argued). Babbitt maybe but I don't know how DC handles death of confederates which is another wrinkle in the felony murder rule.

Source: got a B in criminal law

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

I would expect "conspiracy to commit" at the most.

[–] HR_Pufnstuf@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hit him with everything. Make sure he never sees daylight ever again.

[–] milkjug@lemmy.wildfyre.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, it wouldn't be a great legal strategy. You could end up losing in the court of public opinion, and giving the cheetoh more ammunition to play the victim. A watertight, calibrated and swift prosecution that gets him the maximum amount of time in prison with the least likelihood of getting his case overturned is probably the best strategy (disclaimer: IANAL)

[–] HR_Pufnstuf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

He'd Epstein himself long before it got overturned.

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Absolutely not, nor should they. People who commit homicide are charged with homicide. People who instigate riots and conspiracy are charged with instigating riots and conspiracy.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

Not saying this is the case with trump, but many states have homicide by association (phrasing wrong) laws.

Be the getaway driver for a robbery, and a guy inside shoots someone? Homicide for you too.

[–] AndrewZen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

if you set out to rob a bank and you kill someone in the process you get charged with murder.

Trump set out to overthrow the government and people got killed. That's the same thing to me.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This fills me with warm fuzzies.

Hopefully it’s not just wishful hope.

It’s probably wishful hope

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don't think there are too many black women out there that would be willing to be lenient on Donald Trump. Even his former friend Omarosa hates him.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Eh. I’m more concerned about what ever jury gets empaneled being split on partisan lines and him walking off because republicans voted not guilty just because.

They’re not exactly the most persuadable group (to be fair neither are ardent dems,)

[–] Stanwich@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Narrator : It was wishful hope .

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'm glad she is tough on the Jan 6 rioters. However, I want her to be impartial. If not then this will turn into a campaign tool for Trump. I already know he will use it as a tool anyways. But it will give those Republicans that are on the fence something to falsely claim as a righteous cause to vote for him.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Judges should be tough on treason. A bold statement, I know.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

That's not bold or extreme. I want judges to treat him like anyone else that is up for treason.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What Republicans are still on the fence about this and wtf is wrong with them? Is this really a primary concern here?

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

The less radical right. I know that sounds strange but there are some that actually believe in the religions things they say. Due to that they vote Republican. Not the ones that believe in Q or just straight up racist. Not every person on the right is a total POS but the people they vote for are.

[–] Skanky@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If not then this will turn into a campaign tool for Trump.

We are well beyond that point right now. He has literally told his cult followers that he is being indicted for them.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

His cult is a smaller part of people that say they are right leaning. The rest that are like Mitt Romney will side with him if the court turns into a mockery on both sides.

[–] Goblin_Mode@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is a very good stance to take on paper. But do you really think there will be any significant difference in Trump's campaigning regardless of outcome? The end result is completely meaningless in the grand scheme of the 2024 election, Trump supporters have already shown a dozen times over that there is literally nothing that could change their stance.

I just want to see him get the same treatment I would in his place.. He won't.. But I at least want him to sweat

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

I'm talking about those that will stay home bc they believe he did something wrong. I don't want the opposite of the Miami federal judge. I want judges to be impartial and fair across the board.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

How are judges assigned in the US? Is it a random selection? Like, do they pull names out of a hat? (I'm pretty sure this was the legally prescribed way in some place)

[–] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

IIRC it's rotational, and it changes after x amount of cases, or x amount of time, but the order is random.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I hope that this non-white female judge hands down clear and lasting damage to this sexist, racist narcissist.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

I hope an impartial judge runs a clean trail, and hands down firm justice on criminals acting on a national scale.

[–] onionbaggage@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago
[–] Multech@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

This may be an unpopular opinion but until he actually sees the inside of a jail cell, I find news like this to be very meh.