If it makes you feel any better, they have done this before. And this time the people in charge are idiots. Look up Black Wall Street, the firebombing of MOVE headquarters, killing of Fred Hampton, all that stuff. This is not new. It used to be this way a lot of the time. It's just in a new form now, more systematic, with a ton of extra strengths and a few new weaknesses, compared to the way it came before. It's like Pennywise. I have no idea how this time will shake out, I am afraid a little bit. But it is beatable. My concern is actually a lot more about what is going to come after, than it is that all this shit show in its current setup is indestructible.
PhilipTheBucket
Still works for me. Are you on Tor / VPN?
Just say what's up. People like it. It takes a little bit of charisma to pull off, but the main obstacle with it is that you can't be trying to figure out some kind of compelling lie that you can tell so you can keep doing favors for your friends who are slaughtering human children, just whole stadiums full of little ones with their guts spilling out.
For most people in Washington, that's a deal breaker, so this kind of wildly popular election-winning formula is just off limits.
💔 Fuck the world
What team sports politics combined with legalized (and illegalized for that matter) bribery does to a motherfucker
See Rainbow capitalism as a very related example. Nutomic is right that identity politics are used to create division among the working class, because anything that can create division will be used to do so.
I mean that part is accurate. But abandoning whatever issue it is that is being used to create division is not the answer. They use all kinds of legitimate issues to create division. The solution is clearly to get rid of that whole concept where disagreement = division. Not to say that it's just "all good" if I think people deserve human rights, and you don't. We can still work together on some things, sure. I'm still going to give you hell about your bad point of view. A lot of people on the left seem to have this concept like it has to be a monoculture, like everyone has to see all issues of right and wrong and good and evil in exactly the same way, and if you don't see it my way, then you're a total shit and an enemy on purpose and I need to try to destroy you first before even trying to attempt anything against the right. And that tendency is one that the right absolutely loves to exploit, and they have wild success at it.
(Nutomic also in an extra irony takes it a step further, because his server will not just "divide" from you ideologically, but outright ban you if you try to say that some particular people deserve human rights.)
I didn’t hear about this “mistake” but I agree it’s problematic and hope my instance eventually moves to piefed. Though I haven’t tried it so I don’t know how well I’ll like it.
https://lemmy.world/post/32838609
It was interesting.
On the other hand, I do feel like the ideology of the standard corporate media platforms is about as bad as the tankies and we don’t flip out about that. Makes me wonder about double standards here.
Yeah, pretty much. I realized that my Israel analogy wasn't even completely on point. It would be more along the lines of someone writing the software who was all cool with Palantir and ICE, and constantly spoke highly of them. That's about the level that I put the Russian government on (which of course isn't to excuse any of the horror of what the US government is currently trying to do; if anything, it goes the other way and throws into relief the horror that Russia has already been for decades now that has been normalized at this point.) And, of course, all our existing corporate social media is okay with Palantir and ICE, they just have more sense than to talk out loud about it.
Hm... yeah. I mostly agree. Or sort of almost agree. This one issue of Nutomic having an offically incorrect stance on trans issues is one thing, and then their wider pro-authoritarian politics is another, and then the way they manage their instance is another. They are related but separate.
In terms of a response to the third thing, I do agree about a "boycott" meaning not posting new stuff to lemmy.ml communities in general and just preferring communities in more human-rights-respecting instances. I don't think that blocking the instance, or not commenting on their stuff at all and having isolation, is a good way, though. The thing is that that isolation just helps their censorship to be effective. That's part of the point of the fanatical way they attack outsiders and try to curate a narrative for their users, and it's really very effective. If you ever look from inside lemmy.ml, it looks like they all make sense and there is consensus, and we're the weird ones. One way to tear down that veil is to have open communication, and people from the outside coming in and saying normal things, and then they have to continuously have that fanatical response or else have the mods intervene (and then we can talk about how the mods are overreaching and it's pretty clear who is talking sense about it, over time). Talking to each other is good. I feel like if all the not-pro-Russian people just self censor themselves from lemmy.ml, because they know the mods are going to go HAM on their comments, then it sort of does their job for them and makes it actually airtight, more so that it would be otherwise. That's what they would want to see happen.
One related thing which bugs me more than it seems to bug a lot of people: I think it's a problem that they are so overtly aligned with these malicious actors, and then also they are producing and packaging software that all of us use that is designated for this important purpose. Like if if was an Israeli software development team putting together a new federated web site that all of us were going to trust our communication to, and their home instance was all pro-Israel stuff and you could get banned for criticizing Israel, that would be insane for us to trust the software and the core instance. I mean yeah it's open source but also, the people controlling all of it are super-green with these people that like to do corruptions to software and sneaky things in the Western media sphere. That would bug me. That's kind of how I look at the Lemmy devs, and why for example I reacted so strongly when the docs had that "mistake" that would send new Lemmy installs' admin passwords to lemmy.ml by default. I feel like that aspect of it is also something that should get thought about more often, it is why I am in favor of Piefed even if reimplementing the whole thing from the ground up is this massive amount of duplicative work.
Personally, I think all of this "Person X holds an officially wrong viewpoint on this one singular issue, so let's attack them and create as much division as possible and take energy away from defending ourselves against people who hold objectively wrong and dangerous viewpoints on 100% of the issues and are actively trying to destroy us" thing is silly. But that is me.
The Lemmy devs are a little bit unusual in that I have problems with their overall politics (even if we actually agree on more than we disagree, probably), not just a one issue. But even in that case, where it's a sizeable difference of opinion (instead of WE CAUGHT THEM BEING BAD ON THIS ONE ISSUE FUCK EM FUCK EM FUCK EM), I don't think should be a reason to "divide" from them. People are allowed to hold viewpoints, even allowed to contribute while holding those viewpoints, even if I think they are wrong.
No emotional response. Something crazy starts happening and they're just dead calm, reacting sort of with a poker face. Usually that is a strong sign that it's not their first rodeo and sometimes in the past it has not turned out okay.
My treadle sewing machine is roughly 100 years old
My sister has one of those, it still worked fine (although she preferred the electric one just because it was more convenient.) Those things are just immortal. It is a damn shame to see what the world could be without planned obsolescence making everything into Ikea.
I glanced up from desk and the first thing I saw was a leather postcard that somebody sent to my great-grandmother back when she was "Miss." The postmark and date are worn away, but the art is copyright 1906. It's such a weird little artifact... someone clearly just cut out a mini-postcard from a hunk of leather by hand, and then printed an owl and a moon on it, and then "GET WISE Come to" and then someone scratched in pen where they were supposed to come to, but that's worn away. And on the back is space for filling in a name and address (which it kind of looks like was done with a burning tool, that part still readable, a little unsteady but mostly in this big-style ornate cursive like the Constitution), and not space for anything else. There's no message. Just "Come To (scratches)."
I have no idea why they made a leather postcard, but if they were looking to make a little novelty item that people would consider as special they succeeded, because for whatever reason I still have it well over a hundred years later.
https://www.files.ethz.ch/isn/126900/8008_FDTD.pdf