Vncredleader

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[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

I mean this is 1899, LatAm socialists are not super prominent or common at the time, certainly not in armed revolts yet. I read it as more serious. I mean yeah maybe it is a callback to Landon Ricketts in RDR calling John a socialist. Though in that context you also had a revolution happening around them which once again the military call socialists. We do get more of their political program which Reyes aside, is pretty socialist. The Guarma rebellion is likely based on the Cuban Revolutionary Party, the time lines right up and said party fought in Puerto Rico as well, which while not proclaiming itself socialist, was led by various figures who would form the Popular Socialist Party of Cuba decades later like Carlos Baliño

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I legit boot it up to go fishing or hunt. same places i have been a hundred times and it never gets old

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think they are confirmed socialist, but they are more an expy of Puerto Rico than Cuban. that warship is Cuban actually. Dont ask me how that makes sense

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

Agreed. I think Dutch is brilliant. He is absolutely an Egoist and has essentially recontextualized American self-mythology to justify doing the same shit that the bourgeoise do. Not in a "revolutions are bad cause they just become the tyrant" way, but in the sense that Dutch witnesses real suffering and horrors, takes note, on some level does care, but still cannot kill this BS idea of the American Dream. He is "I'm not like other girls" but as a gunslinger. We see it in how he never really interacts with the workers we see suffering, he never really interacts with the immigrant communities, he never really interacts with the Natives. He cares on some level for their plights, but he will use them as excuses, as cover for his own schemes.

he is like those people in the early days of the Russian Revolution who joined anarchist orgs just to be criminals and had to be purged by said orgs and led to a bunch of distrust

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait Nomiki "bombing Libya is a good idea" Konst?

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just got the hang of it and then the DLC and update came out. Is the DLC that worth it? So far Blocs have been limited without it

 

I knew this story from the Dollop but they really made a joke out of most of it, building to the "religion is silly" punchline without much further to take away. I love this video for really digging into mid 19th century american radicalism. Spear is essentially advocating for utopian communism, was friends with Garrison, put his life on the line for the abolition of slavery, and fought for the rights of prisoners above all else.

Reminds me a lot of the utopian stuff Matt Christman loves to discuss. These people who fully believed they could save humanity, who saw acutely the same suffering Marx did, but took a different path. Much like Robert Owen, who Spears quotes at one point, he is still worthy of respect and analysis.

almost every single like modern account of john spear, every time you hear him being talked about it's as a joke right. He's almost always being you see the phrase "new england's dr frankenstein" or calling him frankenstein or some kind of madman all the time. Right that's all, that's the only way he's ever talked about now and you know i can't myself tell you that the guy was all there right; of course i can't and i can't tell you though some of the stuff i've been reading you isnt a little bit amusing right, but at the end of the day it may be funny to think "oh look at that crazy guy walking up the hill with that machine he thinks he's going to bring life to it he thinks it's going to be his new electric baby" right but you know what john speer thought when he was going up that hill?

He thought that he was going to save the world he thought that he was going to create a new society for all of us that was completely just this was a man who who has seen the absolute ugliest depravity of human society he has been assaulted threatened everything he has seen horrors that most of us will never see right can you really look a man like that in the eyes a man who has devoted his life to helping others and laugh at him i don't think so he john spear was trying to create a free limitless source of energy and power for him for his kids for his kids kids for you for me for our kids for everybody for all time and now 150 years later all we can really do is wish that it had worked

Of course I would say we CAN make that work, but not through his new motive power. We can do it by living up to even half the shit he did in life, and fighting to make that world. I think part of that nuttiness comes from seeing such depravity and seeing how little people give a shit. It makes you either break down, look for a divine source to fix things, or be John Brown and be that divine source yourself and grab a machete.

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

Better yet, beat them with an olive branch

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

The larger problem is that the framing is how it was taught in China itself. Sure the West will spin however it wants, but he was talking about how the official narrative in the PRC was Mao as an always correct lone voice of reason. The framing was always Great Man theory because the masses had not had the political development yet, but they did know Mao had won the civil war and brought them liberation. The disillusion in question is not western propaganda, but true believers and people in the socialist nation itself being told a more politically expedient history and that fact being used by revisionists to discredit communist theory.

The main subjects here are not liberals but actual Chinese citizens and how post Gang of Four Mao's fallibility was able to be used selectively. A better comparison is how Khrushchev went after Stalin for deportations and lies pertaining to them, but left out the deportations he personally had been involved in. He used the existence of a lie in order to revise history himself, and who would question his specifics when the revelation itself is true? Thus something like Mao developing politically was replaced by an infallible Mao for good reasons, but the reality allowed revisionists in the nation itself to select what else was a lie once the existence of falsehood in a broad sense was revealed.

 

I have been listening to People's History of Ideas, which is a podcast on the Chinese Revolution. In ep 28 he covers a moment that in the 60s/70s was framed in a way that was probably correct politically, but was a bit of a lie. And how that correct decision for the moment, bolstering the cult of personality, unfortunately in the long term was part of what helped the capitalist roadsters discredit Mao.

The problem here is that there is no evidence for this account, and plenty against it. Simply put, Mao was not at that Congress. And by Mao’s own account, he did not get involved with peasant organizing in Hunan until the May 30th Movement broke out. Now, Han Suyin may not have been consciously lying. She did not have access to all the materials that have made modern scholarship on China possible, and she relied heavily on interviews with people in China. So it is quite possible that she was told this by a party historian or leading party cadre who wanted to paint the history of the Chinese Revolution in this light.

This is an example, one of many, I’m afraid, where the political imperatives of the moment, as understandable as they may be, even in retrospect, have left the history of communism as written by those sympathetic to socialism as sort of cartoonish (in the portrayal of revolutionary leaders as infallible heroes) and, in some essential points, basically false or untrue. I personally think the world would be a better place today had capitalism not been restored in China, and I do think that whoever at the leading levels of the Maoist wing of the Chinese Communist Party in the 1960s decided that it would not be possible to quickly educate tens of millions of people about the economics of socialist construction and their relationship to a larger project of human emancipation, that person was basically correct. However, their answer to that problem, the amplification of Mao’s cult of personality, has in itself been a factor which has been used to discredit the project of socialism globally.

So, an unintended consequence of the imperatives of the moment, in this case during the Cultural Revolution in China, but there are other examples which can be cited as well in the history of communism as written by those sympathetic to socialist aims, an unintended consequence is that much of the history written with momentary imperatives in mind contain easily demonstrable falsehoods and unrealistic pictures of leaders and the revolutionary process in general. In the longer term, this has made it much easier for the opponents of equality and freedom to discredit the work of supporters of socialism. After all, when one can point to one demonstrably false claim in a book, it serves to undermine the credibility of everything else that person has written. And we can see that in the long run, that lack of credibility has made it more difficult for humanity to get back on track with finding a path for ending capitalism.

Just a fascinatingly nuanced perspective and one we should all keep in mind. I've been thinking about this a lot recently, how the idea of unforced errors supposes that some errors are forced. That we have to make errors at times that are genuinely correct in the moment and needed to happen, but have bad outcomes down the line. The point is to adapt

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 20 points 11 months ago

The specific general also apparently was established to have a vendetta against Evo and was making threats towards him previously. If that is true as Evo previously said, then even just keeping him in his post makes Arce guilty to Evo

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

I think Trump is petty enough and terrified of embarrassing himself like Biden did in Afghanistan. I know it would be pulling out just like Afghanistan, but from his pov it is less a direct debacle of his leadership. He will totally still support NATO and the MIC will get its contracts as they rebuild their stores.

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago

imagine he has a stroke that night and dies the next morning. He would once again be a man upstaging Hillary

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have nothing to add to the definitions others are giving, but I do wanna say it really annoys me how radlibs and some socialists who are non-Marxist will define fascism mostly as "strong man who appeals to populism". Like I enjoyed most of the Dollop episode on Huey Long, but Dave at the end describing the basic concept of a demagogue and saying "that is what fascism is" was frustrating. I mean Dave is smart and understands Trump is not really cognizant enough to be a fascist himself, he still defines fascism in a really weak way. It is the same trick people fall into when calling Peron a fascist, even though Peron was at least a fan of Mussolini in the early 30s though for very stupid reasons of buying his propaganda when visiting Italy.

Something similar happened with Quinton Reviews when talking about the History Channel, he sorta goes to far in mocking Nazi inefficiency and ends up saying fascism is internally incoherent and is more or less just a vibe. I think a lot of breadtube and breadtube adjacent folks do this, heck WTYP have done this iirc. People ignore that the ideology and political structure of fascism is a thing, weird and unreasonable as it is, it has theories and shit like the hollow earth that are super goofy stem FROM those reactionary real material forces.

Esoteric fascism is not just the realm of history channel, shit like Sofindus and Executive Outcomes, these orgs literally run by former Nazis who said they communed with Hitler's spirit, actively did horrifying shit. And fascist ideology was not just left in the dustbin of history, not just reactionaries, but true believers in Hitler personally, got to structure and design our world. The bureaucratic fascists who remained in control of West Germany and the Von Braun types are not so easily divorced from the wacky guys, and said wacky guys had serious sway in the CIA, blew up shit in Italy, ran torture camps in Chile, and formed the basis for modern private military contractors and current torture techniques. Both parts of that equation are relevant.

I HATE when libs say "oh well bigotry is illogical, it doesn't make sense so there is no structure or path that led to these people" even if they accept that material conditions led to these ideologies. Because they more or less let fascism become the masses going crazy and their irrationalities and anxieties being the driving force hence the scattershot beliefs. This shit ignores that we can track how this shit develops socially, we can trace the esoteric shit and it doesn't come from the backwards hicks of saxony, it is the fucking Thule society and elite dinner parties.

I think Trueanon's spider-network series genuinely covers this shit so well

 

cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/2419252

Insanely well done video essay on "modern" retellings and the subgenera of feminist retellings of Greek myths. Really respectful towards these modern writers, but she gives a fantastic classicist perspective and explores how often Anglo culture uses Greek myths and history as a plaything.

Really beautifully done and a good examination of HOW we approach mythology and how oversimplifications can erase the actual depth of stories.

 

Insanely well done video essay on "modern" retellings and the subgenera of feminist retellings of Greek myths. Really respectful towards these modern writers, but she gives a fantastic classicist perspective and explores how often Anglo culture uses Greek myths and history as a plaything.

Really beautifully done and a good examination of HOW we approach mythology and how oversimplifications can erase the actual depth of stories.

 

Could I, could we all imagine then that that year (1991) would bring such changes in two of my homelands, that here Dubrovnik, Rovinj, Sarajevo, and in Russia - Kiev, Crimea, Odesa, would become "abroad"... Bosnia, Herzegovina and Krajina... Nagorno-Karabakh and Chechnya... Thousands, millions of refugees, orphans, ruined lives, destroyed cities and villages, dead, maimed...

What is left of what we believed so much five decades ago and even during the war? What else am I destined to experience? Let me stop there...

This was from the memoir of Đorđe Lobačev a Serbian/Russian comic creator and essentially the only Soviet comic book creator until the 80s. He joined the partisans, survived WW2, got citizenship in the USSR, was deported by Tito to Romania, wasn't allowed to move to Leningrad because of fears over those who had worked in capitalist countries (least that's what bios say, I assume it was more specifically entertainment and artistic fields) until after the Thaw, only allowed back to Serbia decades later, only to watch all of it destroyed.

I was trying to find some communist comic history that wasn't defectors or dissenters driven, but came across this tragic fucking quote from an obituary of him. Sums up the helplessness of being an elderly person watching the collapse of both motherlands.

 

This thread was horrifying. Some good responses in there but holy shit.

 

An all time great episode for them in terms of anger. Aaron was cooking

 

I had somehow never heard this song. Amazing and sincere satire of the "civilized" way in which modern crime and punishment continues the oppression of old while applauding itself as enlightened. Obviously directly speaking to Alabama's Jim Crow laws. This line still works today, as we watch a man die for maybe having a fake $20 bill or previously selling dvds or having a dimebag

Last year a negro stole a dollar bill

The judge he said "We mustn't be severe

Instead of death we'll give him life imprisonment

To show there's justice here"

 

Bit of a content warning, the intro to this video has the recording of the sound of each bullet firing and matches them up to a photo of each martyr. It is not gruesome, but it is tearjerking though I feel very important for visualizing these men and boys.

Tiocfaidh ár lá

 

This had me dying. It is scarily accurate on the "CCP will fall", Johnny Harris, and Reallifelore sphere.

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