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Claudia de la Cruz of PSL puts an end to Brianna Wu

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[–] CarbonConscious@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ok she seems awesome, and I've heard the PSL endorsed by at least a few Marxists I trust, but what do yall think about them and their platform? Any weird gotchas in there or history of grossness from her or the organization?

[–] usa_suxxx@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

COVID. They put up a campaign video on it and they had to take it down. It heavily downplayed the usefulness of masking

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So just got some greyzone brainworms

[–] usa_suxxx@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorta, no where near as reactionary. I think on Karina's and Claudia's part it seems more cowardly than genuinely anti mask.

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe some northeast chapters have had SA cover up accusations levied against them, but I had my own not great experience with my local branch in the Midwest. Nowhere near anything like that, just more of a "this branch needs to figure out what they're doing, and they're actively leading me on and wasting my time" sorta thing.

That said, I've voted for them in the past, and if they're on the ballot, they'll get my vote. I just dont work with them locally anymore.

[–] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I only know of one case in the philly branch, and like from what I heard, it was an understandably messy situation, but that seems more like a problem in any type of organization, not specific to the PSL. It seems to me like people conflate the branch/national not airing dirty laundry in public with them doing some kind of nefarious cover up.

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I don't know the details, but you do make a good point.

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

~~They're trots so don't ask em about AES but~~ if they're on your ballot it's a virtual guarantee they're your best option.

[–] nala@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

PSL are not trots. PSL supports Cuba, Vietnam, China and the historical USSR.
PSL did branch from a trot organization, which might be why you think this. This is because most surviving leftist organizations in America post WW2 redscare were trot organizations.

Links to some random PSL publication articles to prove my point. https://www.liberationschool.org/category/china-2/

https://www.liberationnews.org/tag/cuba/

https://www.liberationnews.org/how-vietnam-defeated-u-s-imperialism/

https://www.liberationschool.org/theory-and-revolution-addressing-the-break-of-ideological-continuity/

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah thanks for that. I knew they descended from a trot org and a member I know had a pretty disgusting pro-NATO stance on something so I just assumed.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If a member of PSL was pro-NATO they are contradicting a fundamental, non-negotiable part of the party line and should be spoken to by local leadership

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

ah now I remember! they were both-sidesing balkanization, placing an emphasis on the bosnian genocide

[–] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PSL are Marcyites, who are Trots that accidentally stumbled into being MLs.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

That's historically accurate but doesn't in any way describe the politics or operation of the party today. We are straight up MLs who have very intentionally shed that trot shit a long time ago.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

PSL published a book last year about why China is good and sent a delegation to meet with Diaz-Canal in Cuba last month