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[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It isn't actually smart, or thinking. It's just statistics.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

right? AI didn't pass the Turing test, Humans fucking failed it.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not that the turing test is meaningful or scientific at all...

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 2 points 2 months ago

just like the vast majority of people

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Soon to be built upon sarcastics.

[–] Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm not sure why that's a relevant distinction to make here. A statistical model is just as capable of designing (for instance) an atom bomb as a human mind is. If anything, I would much rather the machines destined to supplant me actually could think and have internal worlds of their own, that is far less depressing.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's relevant in the sense of its capability of actually becoming smarter. The way these models are set up at the moment puts a mathematical upper limit to what they can achieve. We don't quite know exactly where, but we know that each step taken will take significantly more effort and data than the last.

Without some kind of breakthrough w.r.t. how we model these things (so something other than LLMs), we're not going to see AI intelligence skyrocket.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A statistical model is just as capable of designing (for instance) an atom bomb as a human mind is.

No. A statistical model is designed by a human mind. It doesn't design anything on its own.

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 months ago

If it got smarter it could tell you step by step how an AI would take control over the world, but wouldn't have the conscience to actually do it.

Humans are the dangerous part of the equation in this case.

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

a meat brain is also a stastistical inference engine.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah, biology has a ton of systems that all interconnect. Pain feedback itself is a tiny fraction of what makes a real brain tick, and "AI" doesn't have afraction of an equivalent. Of one solitary system.

No, brains are far, far more than statistical inference. Not that they cannot be reproduced, but they are far, far more than math machines.

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

negative feedback reinforcement systems are one of the key features of machine learning algorithms.

they are far, far more than math machines.

can you be more specific?