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[–] d_cent@lemmy.world 75 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

It's impossible to work 3000 hours of overtime in a year. This is fraud. If that person is actually working those hours, then it's incompetence by the Sergeant above them allowing them to work that many overtime hours for no reason.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

14.47 hour days to the maximum legal amount of days before days off. And working on holidays is time and a half or double time by default as well. Could be done. Not good, but not fraud.

The trick I read before is to arrest someone at the end of your shift, then you have to process them at overtime and possibly wait for a judge or something. They know the tricks to draw it out.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Of course why didn't I think of arresting someone just to get overtime? Probably because I'm not a fucking psychopath

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Sorry to inform you but your application to the police academy has been denied

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 21 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

The money is in police detail work And a lot of them are able to do it during their normal shifts. The person probably did legitimately log that many hours or near that many hours, the problem is that they were able to do it in the first place.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 16 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

3151 hrs of overtime.

78.775 full-time 40 hour weeks there.

So assuming 2 weeks of vacation, he somehow managed to work 128.775 weeks in a year?

128.775/50 - let's see how many work weeks he had to work each week to get there - 2.5755

So each week he had to be working about 2.6 normal weeks, or about 103 hours a week.

Assuming he worked 7 days each week, he was doing 14.7 hour shifts every day of those 50 weeks of working 7 days with no breaks.

Hmm.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago

theres that doubletime, trippletime, quadrupletime and time and a half multipliers to factor in too. I think you for overtime past a 40 hour wk, past 8 hours day, on a holiday, with hazard pay you can pump it way way up. We should give the same to teachers.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

52 weeks in a year. If he worked all 52 full time it’s 4000hrs, which means we’re talking 40+ weeks which most people do work. So yes it’s within range. Remember you don’t have to be awake and working to be considered on duty. Overnight work is still paid work In a lot of industries

At the end of the day we’re both speculating here. The larger point is that unfortunately a lot of this is legal, which is the entire problem. They can get away with this shit without any recourse.

[–] ugo@feddit.it 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Your definition of full time is incorrect. Full time is 40h/week, at 52 weeks per year that’s 2080 hours per year. 3000 hours of overtime puts the total at 5080, or 19.5 hours per day.

That’s by working 5 days a week, every week, no vacation nor PTO nor sickness.

It is fraud

[–] oaklandnative@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I think you are a bit off with your assumptions. In California, overtime is earned either when you work more than 40 hours per week, OR more than 8 hours a day.

So technically he could have for example worked three 24 hour shifts in a week, which would equal three 8 hour shifts (24 regular time hours) and three 16 hour overtime blocks (48h OT). 48 * 52 = 2,496 OT. He could have even been sleeping and on call while working that OT.

Definitely poor management but not guaranteed fraud. The math is more nuanced.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

You’re right i used the 78 figure for some odd reason.

anyway again the sad reality is this is all probably legal, maybe grey. And we are both still speculating as to the numbers and how OT works for them.