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[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 33 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Misleading as fuck. The Timeline feature never went away - it's just device-only.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 41 points 6 days ago (2 children)

There's a good chunk of us who used it with the web, and they're adding that to the vast Google graveyard. That in and of itself makes me excited to see an alternative because Google will kill the app version on a whim too.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The device only was for privacy. When the data was stored in the cloud, the government had unrestricted access. By making it device only they need to get your device to get that data.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Lol. The only thing this setting does is hide the information from the user. Google, or a thousand other data brokers (many probably created by Google for this purpose) still retain that data indefinitely.

[–] cole@lemdro.id 1 points 3 days ago

categorically false. literally do a little bit of research. it is stored on-device entirely now, and Google has no access to it.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Privacy? I'm sure that Google tried so hard to monetize it and after so many years they didn't found a way, couldn't use it for ai training too, so they decided to turn it off and save millions in database costs.

They still exfiltrate user movements for improving Google maps, it's just that they don't need to keep them indefinitely or for years or maintain a nice interface for that

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

I'm sure Google does monetize the gps data instantly, then throws it away rather than save old data that only costs money to respond to government requests.

This is a case where privacy is economically beneficial to Google.

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago

Yes, that's correct, Google didn't do it out of the goodness of their non-existent heart, they made what they think is the best financial decision.

It's a good one for the consumer though, whether see that or not. It's good that your every move ever taken is stored in a company's database.

Don't worry, they most certainly used it to train a decent model of any typical American demographics movements before scrubbing it.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

It never went away. It's still a feature. It's just stored locally on your device. Thats it.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Google also accidentally deleted a random amount of user's timeline data if you didn't immediately catch it and restore from back up last March before the affected backups were overwritten. If you didn't keep a close enough watch on your timeline to know that that happened, everything before ~Feb 2025 is gone now.

Ask me how I know. Yes I kept up on permissions. Yes I had backups on. No I didn't have a new device. I even have dozens of available gigabytes of paid storage on Google One.

I'm sure it will only get more stable due to maps and timeline being revenue generators that encourage investment.

[–] z0n@feddit.org 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I recorded data since 2013. I loved checking out previous vacation trip locations or just randomly browsing through where I've been. All gone now.

Did everything Google recommended but they just deleted it and there's no way to get it back.

I really wish I would've made an offline backup or something before.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Same, been kicking myself since I found out it was all gone a few weeks ago. Don't know why I didn't make a 'just in case' backup / export.

Still infuriating they can just go "oops all gone". It came through the roll-out fine, I remember looking stuff up in February. As far as I can tell it was a later unrelated glitch.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes, technically it's still on the tiny screen of your phone with a really bad ux to make it go, sure. But you see how 'went away' is both true for web and effectively true for phone app? You do see that, right?

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago

Yeah, super hard to find...

[–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

What does device-only mean in this context? That it's only stored on your phone?

[–] dan@upvote.au 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Because of various privacy legislation, and people not wanting Google to track them as much, they stopped syncing the data to Google servers. As someone who's worked at big tech companies, my guess would be that storing so many people's location history was flagged as an issue during a privacy audit.

It's entirely local now. You can enable encrypted backups and back up the data, however you can really only have the data on one device now, and the web version is gone.

[–] gazter@aussie.zone 11 points 6 days ago

It's no longer accessible from a desktop, only from the Google Maps app.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 5 days ago

What else could that possibly mean?

[–] Paige@piefed.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Thanks for clarifying, I was worried for a second.

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

It requires drill down now and doesn't list visits on the location itself which is a huge negative.