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[–] Prox@lemmy.world 294 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

FTA:

Anthropic warned against “[t]he prospect of ruinous statutory damages—$150,000 times 5 million books”: that would mean $750 billion.

So part of their argument is actually that they stole so much that it would be impossible for them/anyone to pay restitution, therefore we should just let them off the hook.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 154 points 2 weeks ago

Funny how that kind of thing only works for rich people

[–] artifex@lemmy.zip 119 points 2 weeks ago

Ah the old “owe $100 and the bank owns you; owe $100,000,000 and you own the bank” defense.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 58 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This version of too big to fail is too big a criminal to pay the fines.

How about we lock them up instead? All of em.

[–] IllNess 48 points 2 weeks ago

In April, Anthropic filed its opposition to the class certification motion, arguing that a copyright class relating to 5 million books is not manageable and that the questions are too distinct to be resolved in a class action.

I also like this one too. We stole so much content that you can't sue us. Naming too many pieces means it can't be a class action lawsuit.

[–] Buske@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

Ahh cant wait for hedgefunds and the such to use this defense next.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Lawsuits are multifaceted. This statement isn't a a defense or an argument for innocence, it's just what it says - an assertion that the proposed damages are unreasonably high. If the court agrees, the plaintiff can always propose a lower damage claim that the court thinks is reasonable.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Womble@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

The problem isnt anthropic get to use that defense, its that others dont. The fact the the world is in a place where people can be fined 5+ years of a western European average salary for making a copy of one (1) book that does not materially effect the copyright holder in any way is insane and it is good to point that out no matter who does it.