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I remember trying to warn people on Reddit that their anti-AI crusades were going to hurt real people making real art, especially surrealists, and got banned from a bunch of art subs for being “pro-AI” as a result. Actually, they phrased it in far more hurtful and inflammatory ways, like “advocating theft.” Apparently caring about not hurting real human beings making real human art is “advocating theft.”
I don’t miss Reddit. That place was bad for my mental health.
P.S. This photo is beautiful and I’m happy you had a mind to capture it and share it. Thank you.
It's the same shit on lemmy
I was watching a video yesterday where the video author said it was sketchy that another ytber had used an AI voice but still credited the original voice actor the Ai voice was based on, the voice actor also chimed in that they agreed and were still being paid even though the AI voice was being used.
Literally every time I see arguments against AI from creative it's because losing income/stealing, he hit both those and yet that is still not good enough.
The goal posts will ever shift and the rage will never end.
I got banned from a fandom subreddit for pointing out that a certain fan remaster was (partially, with tons of manual work) made with ML models. Specifically with oldschool GANs, and some smaller, older models as part of a deinterlacing pipeline, from before 'generative AI' was even a term.
The atla upscale?
Yep.
It's not the best upscale TBH.
Hence I brought up redoing it with some of the same techniques (oldschool vapoursynth processing + manual pixel peeping) mixed with more modern deinterlacing and better models than Waifu2X. Maybe even a finetune? Ban.
In my own anecdotal experience, it’s been a lot better here, but I’m sure instance, communities, etc all have an impact. I have noticed a slight uptick in toxicity recently, but once I started using Voyager’s tagging feature I realized the perpetrators are almost always the same 4 people.
Well, also AI is hurting actual human beings. We should be fighting against it too. Yeah, be careful of crossfire, but it doesn't mean you shouldn't fire at all.
Thank you! And yes, I mean I realize it’s a two sided battle. I legitimately hate gen AI and what it was done to the art world. My current career is in the process of being completely devoured by AI and taking photos is something that brings me a lot of joy and connects me to the real world, so it’s infuriating to have both the loss of my career and denigration of my photography due to AI.
It's the same thing for writing. Use a single emdash and you get accused of using LLMs. It's like, no, I'm literate. I read books. Sorry for paying attention in class..
If the people who object to slop figuratively crucify real human artists for creating real human art, then they are the baddies.
People gonna pitchfork. I figure there are enough communities to peruse, getting banned by an overactively axe-grinding mod now and then isn't a biggie. LPT: it's not a reddit thing, those same mods are here too.
Real talk! I got banned for "advocating violence". Anyone who knows me would find that fucking laughable at best, and completely dishonest at worst. Been a few months now and I can sense an improvement in myself. I get more shit done and hate people a lot less.
Nah fuck AI, this shit wouldn't be happening if people routinely respected the rule so we could establish trust and benefit of doubt.
There is no way this lighting is real. Given the follow up pic of the same environment I take it back its correct.
You can see particles on the concrete wall in the background. You can see how the physical objects in the image interact with one another. AI is good at replicating compositions, but you spot it by the details. At least, for now. This image is definitely real.