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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Anyone around here have actual experience with ozempic? My dr has actuality suggested it for a potential heart issue, to help clear up the system i guess. But everyone online talks about it like it’s heroine

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

I've never taken Ozempic, but I did used to be a pharmacy tech, and having to tell patients that it was unavailable due to supply issues, on a daily basis, really sucked. I'm sure it was much worse for them.

Ozempic can be the right choice, but it's good to do plenty of research, and if you can, prioritize lifestyle interventions first. Here's a video series on Ozempic, as well as ways that you can stimulate glp-1 production naturally through diet and lifestyle-

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5TLzNi5fYd90bMuM9SuzQ83E1IsM3Yy4

[–] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's more along the lines of: Could you benefit from it because of some legit medical issues. Then go ahead.

Do you want to take it recreationally to fit in your new dress for the wedding 3 weeks from now without any lifestyle changes? Don't take it.

Ozempic is not some fun new "weight loss shot", it's a fucking necessity for people with diabetes. That includes Type I diabetes, which is due to genetics and not lifestyle choices.

Recreational users have made ozempic scarce, raising the price to unsustainable levels for folx that rely on it to stay alive

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You're right except the last point - all drug shortages and issues are the result of doctors/public health and drug manufacturers. Never patients. It is a lie they tell us so we blame ourselves and each other.

Patients can't write their own prescriptions. Patients can't magically procure a drug in their hands. They aren't stealing them from diabetics, they are being advertised to and buying the product.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'll bite. I'm on it for what some people here would consider "recreational" purposes (weight loss). However, I have polycystic ovaries and have had extreme difficulty losing weight in other ways. Essentially the only way I can lose weight is doing a pretty severe calorie deficit, which is really hard to do and essentially means I am starving all the time. Ozempic has helped me curb that perpetual feeling of hunger, and besides diarrhea (which I already had often anyway), it hasn't caused me that many side effects.

Essentially PCOS causes a craving for carbs and sugar. It's hard to fill that hole, but there are other ways to supplement the things that my body is not creating which make me crave those things. While I'm on ozempic (I don't plan on using it long-term) I'm also working to make changes to my diet to make sure I'm getting those things I was missing (B12, chromium picolante, some other stuff with scientific names).

And I know people think it's just "lazy", which it is for some people, but I struggle to lose weight even with exercise and calorie deficits. Ozempic has helped me lose some, but not as drastic as other people.

I have friends who are on waygovy (the same drug as ozempic but specifically targeted at weight loss) and they've had more side effects than me, but they are significantly bigger, have less healthy lifestyles and are I believe on a much higher dose than me. They've lost a ton of weight though.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I’m basically at the line of pre diabetic so the doc wants something to jumpstart me off the line, i definitely need to make changes but I would love the help to get going. I tend to intermittent fast but when I do eat it’s junk. Most people don’t get it but it’s akin to any addiction. Most times you don’t realize you’re binging till after, so something that can kill my cravings would be lovely

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I haven't done the type of deep dive research others mention here but I trusted my doctor when he told me this was a good choice for me. I also don't live in the US so have no reason to believe he's being paid off. If there are worse consequences than what I've discussed with him already, I guess I'll have to deal with that.

There are also non-medicinal ways to treat binge eating, and I've known people that have had good success with therapy/CBT for that, in case that's something you can afford or are interested in.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 day ago

Essentially PCOS causes a craving for carbs and sugar

There is a good amount of literature documenting PCOS being a downstream effect of metabolic syndrome. Metabolic syndrome is caused by carbs and sugar. The addiction and cravings are real, but the order is reversed.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

My ex was on it for diabetes, and it caused gastroparesis in him and he ended up hospitalized for 12 days. His digestion has never been the same, and he's in a class action lawsuit against the makers of Ozempic because it's a side effect that they didn't disclose.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Before going on Ozempic, read up on current medical research (not Facebook or such shit). They discovered some not-so-good long term effects recently.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (43 children)

Like many medications, you are balancing the risks of continuing with an unmedicated health problem or any negative side effects of the medication.

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[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I've seen several successes and I wouldn't believe every story you hear in these forums. The data shows it's relatively safe with minimal serious secondary effects. That doesn't mean nothing to manage at all. Just like statins for cholesterol.

Ozempic and variants are also considered short term. They essentially short circuit the desire for vices, but are only effective for about a year. You either relearn your habits or you'll eventually revert. If you are in ozempic for 2 years on weight loss you've likely ignored your doctor.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My ex is on one of those for blood sugar. She’s not losing weight but she said it made a significant difference controlling her blood sugar.

On the other hand her Dad is also on one of those for blood sugar but he’s never hungry and forgets to eat for days so has lost too much weight. It’s to the point where the doctor said anything he wants, load him up on chips and ice cream if necessary to get him back to a healthy weight

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Im like 190lbs and have high blood sugar. I see guys twice my size eating cheeseburgers and they don’t get it. Doctor told me it’s generic for me, but it doesn’t help that I smoke weed and eat all my kids cereal at 1am

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 day ago

You might want to consider keto or low carb. It will help with your blood sugar.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My wife has been on wegovy for about 3 months now, which is supposed to be similar. It's ok, I guess. Still ramping up to the full amount and there was one week of really bad digestion issues, but the rest has been fine. She feels full way quicker, and if you go over that amount, you start to feel nauseous, so you stop. Problem is she hasn't really done much else to help it. Still eating the same and hasn't introduced more exercising to help. So far, loss is around 15 lbs, but it's kind of sitting steady around this for a bit now.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Try to get her to eat vitamin k1 and/or k2 if you can. It will help her feel like exercising and moving more

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks, I'll use that for my own knowledge!

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sure or let her know. That's like cheese, yogurt, eggs, dark leafy greens (best source), or natto if she can handle it haha.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I've been on tirzepatide for maybe three months at this point. I highly recommend it. I think the risks are massively overblown. It's predictable fear-mongering that is simply an understandable reaction to how greedy the pharma companies are with their pricing on it. If you can't afford it, it's tempting to convince yourself it would be a bad thing to take it anyway.

I can't afford it, but instead of spreading FUD about it, I found a third way. I just pirate the shit out of it! I'm not just taking tirz, I'm taking bootleg tirz! So far I've dropped from about 180 to 150.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I'm on Mounjaro for diabetes, have lost 35 pounds in two months. It's a tool, with potential side effects, but for me it has been a huge jump-start for a lot of neglected health issues and overall energy levels.

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