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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The only reason people have to be paid for their work is because the capitalist system requires it

Naw, people like being paid for their work.

Having food is nice, having a home is nice, having a car is nice, having a vacation is nice.

People like being paid for their work.

[–] RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Capitalists giving you those privileges only exists in a capitalist system. Do you think people in communist systems or centralized state systems didn't get to eat, or have homes, or travel? Just because capitalism is the way we are allocating resources and privileges in a lot of countries today, doesn't mean it's the only way these things can be distributed to people. People act like capitalism isn't only a 300 year old economic system.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

People don't like getting paid, they like to get things with the money.

In a decommodified economy you would not need this.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you go straight to giving people the end things, the payment is the food, home, car, vacation, etc. People like being paid for their work.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You are still thinking of it in terms of commodity production

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If you include 'food', 'shelter', 'transportation' in 'commodity production', then yes, people want things like food, shelter, and transportation. People like being paid for their work.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

These things should not be directly associated with work

Of course rewarding people for work is good in some sense in every economic system, just putting it in the sense of being paid just makes it very stuck in that sort of capitalist mindset.

Other economic systems can exist.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

These things should not be directly associated with work

Unfortunately for humanity, food, shelter, and transportation doesn't place itself in front of you. People have to work to make/gather those things.

  • I would also love to live in a place where nobody had to work in order for shelter to exist. But, someone has to work to build the home.

  • I would love to live in a place where nobody had to work for food to exist. But someone has to grow and gather the food.

  • I would love to live in a place where nobody had to work for cars/trains to exist, but someone has to work to build the car.

Other economic systems can exist.

And in those systems, people will still be working for food, shelter, transportation. People like being paid for their work.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

And in those systems, people will still be working for food, shelter, transportation. People like being paid for their work.

"Source: it's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism."

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We shouldn’t confuse the use of currency with the capitalist system.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In a decommodified economy, any sort of "currency" would not even be money in the modern sense of the word.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Describe this “decommodified economy” if you could. What does that mean to you?

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

An economy where goods are not produced to be sold at a market.

For example a communist society (classless and moneyless) would be one such system.