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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (5 children)
[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 42 points 2 days ago (3 children)

As far as Americans are concerned, there are only 2 British accents:

Villain or wise mentor: Queen's English

Henchman or comic relief: Cockney

I would really like to see a movie about a team up between detectives with Yorkshire, Brummie and Scouse accents; working cross regionally to bring down a gang of criminals. Hardcoded subtitles for the Americans please.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Michael Cain would like to have a word about the Cockney accent typecasting.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

He gets a pass cause he can make cockney sound refined

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

Hey now, I've watched enough Simon Roper to know that's not true.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

In Flushed Away, is Rita's accent Cockney? It's certainly not Coruscanti

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Anecdotal..

British gal is visiting New York. Loves it and makes plenty of friends. She learns that if she has a job offer she can almost certainly get permission to stay. Goes to an employment agency and gets an interview the same day. Hired to a prestigious firm almost immediately. They tell her they love her classy British accent. In the UK she was lower middle class.

edit = silly me. I forgot that 'middle class' means different things.

At home, she would be a barmaid at the local.

In NYC she was a receptionist in a law firm on Madison Avenue.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

lower middle class

Do you mean in US terms or UK? That phrase means something very different in the UK.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago

I'm an idiot.

Yes, I meant USA.

To rephrase, to a Brit she was a slum girl who'd gotten a bit of education.

To americans she was Lady Diana's cousin.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

In the UK she was lower middle class.

Did she speak RP tho? Or is this so nuanced in the UK that everyone can tell when you try to speak RP but come from a lower middle class family?

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Okay, now I'm lost. RP? Role playing? Ron Perlman? Randy panties?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_American_Speech

The 'midlantic' accent was created in Hollywood and popularized by actors like Kate Hepburn and Cary Grant.

Thanks for the information.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Nah, despite the article that was just the “North Eastern Elite” accent and people just spoke like that.

[–] Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Many yanks don't tend to think of brummie or scouse...

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Why go with two English accents and not Irish and Scottish?

[–] Apocalypteroid@feddit.uk 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My apologies in advance to the good people of Birmingham but it is well documented that the accent is associated with low intelligence.

[–] Palerider@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As someone living not far from Brum, I concur. Brummies are thick.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 2 days ago
[–] Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago

Because Americans tend to have positive views of scottish accents. I picked the two most famous examples of accents generally viewed somewhat negatively.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Because it says British? Ireland isn't British

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Assuming “British” is being used colloquially, as it often is, to describe someone or something from the UK, then there are Irish accents in the UK. The island of Ireland contains Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK. People from Northern Ireland have Irish accents. Try telling Nadine Coyle she doesn’t have an Irish accent.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Interesting take. Try telling Nadine Coyle she has a British accent?

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s fair. It’s not like the whole thing around Northern Ireland and Britain isn’t without its complications and controversies, to understate it massively. But that applies just as much to saying that people from Northern Ireland aren’t British as much as it does to saying they *are *.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People from Northern Ireland are legally entitled to choose to be British citizens. That doesn't make their accent British, any more than them cooking boxty makes boxty British.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I think it’s a little more nuanced than that, but I’m not going to argue.

[–] Best_Jeanist@discuss.online 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is Ireland one of the British Isles?

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Given that the people of Ireland reject that name, it's a very British thing to deadname them.

Serious answer - no Prythonic speakers lived in Ireland, so there is no proper basis for the name beyond people quoting a Greek who had never been there. It fell out of use for a millennium and was revised by a Welshman who spoke to angels as a way to erase the separate identities of Scotland, Wales and Ireland. His reasoning was that the King of the Britons, Arthur, had conquered Ireland (if he ever existed, he did not). I am speaking of John Dee who also coined the terms British Empire (it stuck) and British Ocean (it decidedly did not).

To expand on Arthur, if he ever was a real person his first historical record was written 300 years after his supposed death and it claims he was a war leader, not a king, fighting the Saxons to ultimately no avail, though the Historia Brittonnum makes sure to assure the reader that's only because the Saxons kept bringing in new troops and not because Arthur lost any battles.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Why can't England be part of the Irish Isles?

[–] NKBTN@feddit.uk 12 points 2 days ago

It does, but I once met a Mancunian who sounded, in his own words, common as muck and rough as fuck to a fellow brit, but in the states was treated like Shakespeare

[–] potoo22@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oi! That's a right load of poppycock!

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

+20 intelligence