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I really, really hate that one third of this country are truly rubes.
It's probably just that ~a third of humans are vulnerable to the fascist con. Most everyone is vulnerable to one grift or another, though this is probably the most dangerous one of all.
That's a fact that probably won't ever change. We desperately need social infrastructure to counter that threat. Campaigns, laws, cultural norms, social institutions that kind of thing. I don't pretend to know what exactly that would look like, but the need seems clear.
I would imagine that the 1/3 that like fascism are also on the bottom of the IQ metric. Dumb people take comfort in authority, I think it's really that simple.
You spelled 50% wrong.
A third is more likely:
Sucks you’re getting downvoted. They always come out of the woodwork and pretend that abstaining is action. I hate non voters more than MAGA.
Oh but they are quick do downvote anyone calling them assholes for letting the insane people pump the gas on fascism.
I have similar concerns and was thinking about joining the solarpunk piefed for similar reasons
There was a massive, expensive disinformation campaign coupled with every legal, semi-legal and frequently illegal barrier to voting that the republicans and their allies could bring to bear.
Calling people assholes because the rich invested hordes of time and wealth into driving down turnout doesn't make much sense to me.
Blame the rich fascists for pursuing this, dont blame people just because they live in a system where this is possible.
This attitude is a gift to fascists. Save your scorn for the nazis who were able to subvert our shitty electoral system.
How many people did you drive to the polls?
Are you aware we never got the ballot rejection rates like we normally do for elections? Trumpers had massive efforts in trying to have ballots challenged and rejected, particularly for signatures not perfectly matching on the ballot vs a driver's license on the absentee/mail in ballots. There's also Rockland County election lawsuit. Idk that he actually won.
It's entirely possible the ballots you sent in got rejected, unfortunately.
Polls had Kamala ahead. The guy who owns Polymarket is in bed with Trump and that could've been a money making scheme/scam re: bets.
Additionally, Dominion voting machines were just bought by a Trump group, Liberty Vote.
https://www.npr.org/2025/10/09/nx-s1-5569817/dominion-voting-liberty-vote-false-claims
I never said it was actionable, although we certainly need to be aware of it for future elections. I'm saying your hatred at society is perhaps misplaced somewhat, because there's clues that he did indeed steal some votes.
It doesn't help Trump to point this out, or Trump would be yelling it from the rooftops.
No, it was and is my genuine impression that polls had Kamala leading slightly, at least right before the election. I didn't watch the polls before that because it isn't "actionable."
I'm aware of the electoral college issue, that doesn't change the original sentiment that all of America deserves vitriol when it's possible many were disenfranchised.
They reported Trump odds as higher because their buddies were betting on him because they had insider knowledge. Elon paid over $100million for an online astroturfing organization and to siphon money from Dems, you don't think he was placing multiple million dollar bets knowing the election interference they had? I know how bets work. I also know how cheating on bets work. Every gambler is aware of cheating and assumes cheating. The entire Polymarket situation is suspicious. That they flooded other betting markets when their edge went down from their own bet volume is expected.
Anyway, polls and bets aren't proof that he didn't steal the election - the court cases and defunded the election security teams including the ballot rejection rates is. And disenfranchisement matters, and has for decades, it's civil rights 101.
The truth matters even if you don't immediately come up with an idea to act on it.
Ignoring votes being stolen in Trump's favor helps him. Refusing to point out issues that benefit him and disenfranchise people helps him.
Everyone should vote, no one is saying not to vote. In fact, being upset about disenfranchisement addresses a lack of votes directly. It's motivation to have fair elections.
They are even worse. Don’t @ me yall idiots. “Oh no I’m not getting everything I want, I’m taking my ball and going home!”
he also got alot more black, latino, and asian men this time to, who fell into the manosphere/incelism.
That number is a lot lower when you factor in the people that are too apathetic / disillusioned to vote or be polled with registered voters.
Trump’s base is about 35% and his approval ratings are around 40%.
And those numbers are still just so unimaginably high
Depends where you live and what social media you’re being guided too. The right wing media bubble is quite massive in today’s America.
Also, Lemmy is very much not representative of the surrounding world. If that were true, everyone would be running Linux and would have a home NAS.
The rightwing media bubble is honestly wild. I went to a red area recently and every radio station had weird shit on it and blatant lies and propaganda. The newspapers, the conversations, everything, they kind of live in a totally different world.
its also co-opted from russia, flood the news with crap, or firehose of falsehood. this how they keep people on thier toes from concentrating one thing. thats what trump is doing to distract from the epstein files and the fallout of the cuts, and the BBB.
Gish gallop, they do so much we can't keep track.
Wild to remember seeing in 2016 the funny obvious Russian propaganda and laughing at it, and now it's here and just as stupid, but people are deepthroating it like crazy. Shouldn't have laughed at Russia, what arrogance I had
like the nobel prize news, is such an obvious distraction,
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Some, yes. Others who are super disenfranchised, I kind of get it.
I ran into some pretty fucked up stories when I worked in Alabama for several years. Outside of Birmingham I’d hear stories from black voters about limited polling places, that were super far away, were hard to hit up during work hours, and had good ‘ol boys intimidating anyone that wasn’t white.
And if folks did tough it out, they were gerrymandering to high hell, so the vote was designed to go nowhere.
aside from the voting machine riggings plus the voter suppression.
the worst are the totally ignorant like the ones who dint know biden wasnt running anymore, or how they dint bothered because they forgot.
I'm sorry that you under counted....
Edit, I'm a socialist.. I meant more than a third of the country is dumb.
They made sure to get you though!