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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 85 points 1 month ago (7 children)

My parents, both life-long democrats, voted for him. I didn't understand that, and I was only 15 at the time. Four years later, when I got to vote in my first Presidential election, I voted for Mondale. I've voted Democrat ever since in an attempt to balance out the Fascists.

The thing is, the Dems never pleased me either. I've realized in recent years that voting for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil. There should be a better way.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago (3 children)

While I am not thrilled with the Dems, if you get progressive enough dems, they will institute ranked choice voting, which is the path out of a 2 party system. GOP has never done this.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This. The only way out is an evolution of one of the two existing parties due to the probabilistic nature of FPTP. Step one is short-circuiting media, and establishing a working class unity against the rich. Need blue collar voters united to start pushing for constitutional changes state by state.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Boomer Blue collar workers are somehow convinced that the Republican Party is their best friend. Fucking rubes

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 9 points 1 month ago

White Boomers grew up in and received the full benefit of the American Golden Age. Conservatives offer "the good old days" and most Boomers can't understand those good old days came from The New Deal and other 1930s legislation which conservatives put to the torch.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

<Trump, about to suggest replacing FPTP with generational monarchy>: "Hold my hamberder..."

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, they'll do this just as soon as they enact universal healthcare, or federal maternity leave, or get money out of politics. Any day now ...

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago

The DNC will never do anything that might break their Duopoly on power but Town and County elections often have Democrats who would. Not enough but it's a start. Actual grass roots elections at this level can move the dial.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

The US has a 2 party system, until that changes, it will always be this way.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We have two parties that are shifting to the right and prioritize the rich at every turn. And yet, somehow, we're supposed to keep pretending that voting is going to fix anything in this country.

Voting is a bandaid and we're bleeding out at this point.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, you shouldn't just be voting. You should also be campaigning, researching, and even running for election yourself

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes I'll do those things with all the time I have that is definitely not spent on maintaining food/shelter and sleeping

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Oh, cry me a river. Change is not effortless. It can even start in your own workplace, you can put in the effort to unionize so that you have more time.

The amount of people with no time at all is very very slim. You don't need to devote all your time to a cause. A day off or 2 a month would already be quite good. And even a few times a year is sufficient to help

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Both of you are correct. You're not wrong: people often complain about the political landscape but take no action, and use excuses like "I have no time and absolutely no way to make time, so somebody else is going to have to magically fix things for me!".

But you also need to recognize that the US is a state with such a sistematic failure that you're asking that a lot of people sacrifice the little time and energy they have for a cause that, in reality, would require decades of targeted collective effort, which immediately makes things less appealing and gathering a critical mass becomes significantly harder.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes, things take time. I understand that I'm asking that, because that's what I'm asking for. People to not just talk, but act, consistently pushing the issue and politicians who support it through decades to insure that not only do the issues get successfully dealt with, but also so that they continue to remain dealt with. I'm aware it's unappealing to people, but I believe that they need to grow up and do it anyways because progress will not happen otherwise. Instead of just hoping someone else will do it for them and blaming everyone, people should take action themselves.

[–] Econgrad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I agree completely. Let's connect and get to know each other for future union and third party organizing.

[–] HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The reason why we keep moving to the right is because people on the left are not voting. The right controls all three branches of government because of the way the country voted, why would the left move away from where they think the votes are being cast?

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

This is a conscious decision on the part of the two major parties to move the Overton window to benefit their wealthy backers, not savvy politicians "responding to market conditions".

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago

Enacting ranked choice voting at the city and county level then moving on up with it.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

There should be a better way.

More parties and coalitions to govern. Of course in the US there's lots of regulation that makes that all but impossible, so such laws have to change, some of them retroactively.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 1 month ago

The better way is to build up political momentum locally, and then keep taking every seat you can

Luckily, there's a back and forth swing in political momentum as well, and right now progressives are making huge strides

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I completely agree with you. But I base my vote solely on who has the most of those little road side signs at stop lights.

[–] dmention7@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago

We Buy Ugly Houses 2028!