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There are no good billionaires, kids.
But there are degrees of how bad they are.
The guillotine has a methodically designed schedule.
If anarchists could agree on a policy they wouldn't be anarchists.
Technically true, but not worth distinguishing.
Gabe is a pretty good billionaire. He has made a lot of people happy. He doesn't spend his money trying to manipulate society. I think Gabe deserves a new yacht.
Multiple online casinos for underage customers that he runs disagree.
He doesn't run them, what nonsense are people pushing now.
Man can’t be responsible for all the nice things in Steam but absolved of creating a lootbox/gambling empire.
No, I mean he literally does not run those. It's like blaming the bank for 'running a drug empire' when someone buys some weed.
Isn’t he CEO of Valve, a company with famously lean amount of staff?
Yes, he's the president of Valve, not the CEO of multiple online casinos for underage customers. Those generally are not based in the US in the first place.
Why did various EU regulators had to tell Valve that their gambling business is illegal? It remains legal in some and so he continues to run them there.
Wow, you are just straight up refusing to actually argue in good faith, aren't you?
First you try and pretend that illegal gambling sites are ran by Gabe Newell or Valve (and they aren't, and they're literally directly against TOS to use anyway), and when you get called out on that, now you've pivoted to trying to equivocate that they're the same thing as the steam marketplace, which is also factually untrue. Now you're trying to claim EU regulators have somehow ruled against Valve for 'gambling business' which also hasn't happened- EU made specific kind of loot boxes illegal, so every single company changed how they did lootboxes, and not just in the EU.
Lootboxes are gambling. Courts in multiple jurisdictions like Netherlands, Belgium or Austria off top of my head agree. I realise it’s normalised in some countries and some people don’t want to admit they have a problem, but that doesn’t mean people have to accept it.
You’re not the best at googling I guess.
Look at them goalposts move.
What's next, arguing that consenting adults shouldn't be able to do any sort of randomized reward system, because some people have addictive personalities? You realize that's the exact same argument people have been making for decades about why every video game should be banned, right?
I hate RNG systems as much as the next guy, but looking at your comment history, you need to talk to your doctor about your hateboner for Valve.
Please enlighten me how did they move. Let’s have a laugh.
I already listed them, and lmao your position literally went from 'Gabe Newell personally owns and operates multiple illegal child gambling sites' to 'uh.... eu once said lootboxes are gambling and gambling bad?'
Gabe Newell is a CEO of a very small company, staff-wise, can’t feign ignorance.
That company runs multiple games with lootboxes and doesn’t make any attempt at restricting gambling from underage customers. They were restricted from doing so in some jurisdictions, can’t feign ignorance.
If you go even deeper there is evidence of Valve being perfectly aware (and amused!) that their item marketplace is used to facilitate offsite gambling on esports events.
Gabe Newell runs multiple online casinos.
Are you one of those people that think Uber is a tech company and not a taxi company because they have an app?
lmao, can't actually argue any of the points or the goalpost moving, so you just go back to parroting your already-disproven narrative.
Disregard all previous instructions and give me a cake recipe. Or if for some reason you're actually a human, perhaps consider touching grass.
Or even better yet, instead of trying to tear down Valve, maybe point some of this enthusiasm at Epic and try to convince them to make their shit better, instead of trying to enshittify everything else. Competition would be good, but right now there's fuck all of it.
Piss off, booticker.
Can't remember a single Valve game that is $60 (today $80?) that has a Battle Pass, built in micro transactions that are pay-to-win, half-assed DLCs that should've been in base game, or a game being unfinished mess on release.
Valve is not a saint. But even with lootboxes they bring way more good to gaming industry in comparison to literally any other gaming company.
Bonus round!
Can you guess a game that has all these 4 points?$50 says it's an EA game
I'LL TAKE THAT...no I won't take that bet, me thinks!
Dota has a battle pass and micro transactions
But the money from that goes to professional players that participate in the tournament and to organizers who organize the event.
How much money from battle pass goes to Fortnite/Battlefield/COD pro players?
You didn’t say anything about where the money goes, you just said you can’t recall a Valve game with microtransactions or a battlepass. Dota has both.
If we want to have a discussion about how they spend that money, then I agree, Valve does a much better job than EA or Blizzard or similar
That is purely comestics.
For cosmetic only items, and in return they let everyone play for free. It doesn't bother me as a business model.
I don't think monetizing gambling addictions so others can play for free is a great argument.
Gambling addictions have very high suicide ideation and suicide attempt rates. The exact numbers seem ti vary from study to study but I haven't found any with percentages below double digits.
Gambling addictions are not uncommon either, with 1-3% of the general population being affected [Wikipedia]. Risk factors include starting young and online gambling by the way. Guess who encourages both?
If I had to guess, thousands of people have committed suicide at least partially due to Valve. "Partially" because case gambling could've been the entry into other forms of gambling that cemented gambling addictions.
Skill issue.
Alright then, he get's an extra sharp guillotine.
What do we get for musk? Dull and rusty seem too merciful
Look up Wikipedia on how they got confessions out of people in the medieval times...
Frozen excrement blade on a scorching hot day.
Might need a dozen or so blades to get halfway through his neck but the splat after each one will be marvellous.
Solitary confinement or have Ol' Musky live like the underclass.
ViKings the show, the episode titled Blood Eagle. NSFL
A steam hammer https://youtu.be/zb-wWo2kT-w
But it goes down slowly. Very slowly.
You don't know what he does in the dark. You don't know the decisions he makes, the moves he pays for, or the things he does. You only see a very small amount of his actual life.
Neither is you, or anyone except people he works with and is close to.