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Ragebait art by someone who wants to seek rage from both sides. Mastered art.
'Both sides'? No, I assure you only one side would rage over this and if you felt rage, you should work on that.
The only thing the guy said was wrong was that it's reverse sexism. If he said "so your main concern is improving things for women? That's not egalitarian unless you believe women have it much worse than men today." It's someone misinformed being told he's an enemy. Ragebait
Women do have it much worse than men today. And I say this as a man, we hold so much privilege compared to any one else it's not funny.
So then he is misinformed, which many people are. I don't put someone into the "enemy" box for being misinformed or stubborn, that's pretty much the default state of most humans.
When you combine ignorance with combativeness you are a roadblock that needs to go.
If he was simply uninformed and sough to learn, he wouldn't trying to make himself to be a victim to 'win' an argument in his head. This is reactionary behaviour, and reactionaries are the enemy.
I just don't know what to say because I was that person before. A lot of people men especially are extremely pigheaded and argumentative, and you can be justifiably upset at them. If your goal is to help women and further feminism though, even a "correct" gotcha like this makes people less receptive to feminism. It's just making enemies out of people who might be wrong, stubborn, and combative, which unfortunately is basically everyone at some point in their life.
Being confronted and having to think about or explain your bigotry is the only way they can learn.
In my opinion, shaming people for bigoted opinions can be effective and even necessary at times, but only serves to change people’s behavior.
I’ve found that the main thing that changes people’s thoughts or values are measured explanations or evidence to the contrary.
Wasn't there a meme post about how people don't change their opinions when presented with facts? I think not even explanations, for me it was listening to someone I trusted talk to someone about their experiences. I think it's often just people not imagining themselves as the other person and how they would feel experiencing all that, or just not knowing what the average woman deals with day to day.
I wish more people understood this
"being combative" is not a constant character trait, but rather a response behavior.
And everyone can be wrong even in their strongest opinions, including yourself. Would you prefer to be the "roadblock that needs to go" when such occurs, or you'd rather have a chance to correct your opinion?
Unlike the popular belief, people can and do change. Your words here haracterize you just as combative on the matter. What makes you better than any other human being? They too believe their ideas to be the correct ones.
Treating anyone, however wrong in their ways, as nothing more than an obstacle that needs to be removed, you only make yet another person hostile towards you and your ideas, making everything only worse.
What makes me better than a misogynist and I should be nice to them too?
That’s your argument?
Not the main one, but sure.
You treat them as less than human, unworthy to have a dialogue with. They treat a group of people as less than human too. The only difference is the pretext. The cause can be good or bad, it doesn't justify crappy behaviour.
I'm not saying "turn on another cheek", I'm saying that an individual is not responsible for the deeds of another individual, both of which you've attributed to the same group. Groups are abstractions anyway, people should be judged individually and based of their actions, otherwise it's just plain bigotry.
I also said that it's only human to make mistake in your judgements and worldviews. That means that someday anyone could end up on the receiveing end, yourself included. If such people are ostracized, it will only lead to further radicalization of their erronous views, further polarizing both sides of conflict.
You don't open dialogue with Nazis, you punch them. Likewise you don't debate bro reactionary rightists, we're not playing that Charlie Kirk bullshit game.
Cool, which is exactly what this comic is about. The individual man is being a dick, and getting judged for it.
I have been wrong many times, and I've been rightfully ripped into for it. I've grown because of that. I do not accept that as a reason to coddle pricks.
Charlie Kirk was a politician, and operated on political level. His reason for doing all the "debate me" charade is purely of media representation interests.
By punching a "nazi" you'll only get punched in return, and further villanize yourself in "nazi's" view. Considering that there still lots of people with quite conservative views, by "punching a nazi" you would do a counter-productive job at proving your worldview, thus making your opponents more confident in theirs.
Except my issue is not with the comic. It's with you treating people as obstacles. Dehumanization is a not nice thing to do due to multiple reasons.
you seem to fail at differentiating between critique and pure hatred. Right now you're spreading nothihg but hatred, and that's why i said that you're not much better than the people you hate. You use your sense of morality to justify the hatred, they use theirs. The result is the same: no actions taken, only people going for each other's throats. Basically, you're just as "nazi", the difference is only in the agenda you push. They too believe to be morally correct, you know.
People won't be able to change unless you point them out, where they ought to change and why, and society is kinda not a thing without the communication.
Yes, there are people incapable of change, and yes, they deserve the hate. Only those are always in a minority.
Not really. There's many areas that women do have it better. Sociologist have started to label it even. They're called the lost boys. A generation of boys who for one reason or another have failed to move onto post secondary education. Education in our society is something that increases our chances of success in life. But right now post education is filled with women. They believe the push to get women in schools was successful but nobody put the same effort into the boys. STEM careers and other post secondary streams were advertised to women and the boys were forgotten. Can't tell me that those boys are not now feeling that pressure with having reduced social and capital mobility as a whole. It's just one example of how women do not have it "much worse" today then men.
Oh no, be careful, you're saying unpopular things!
What an incredibly valuable contribution.
Value is what I'm all about.
Funny way of showing that your values are value. I suppose I expected more value from a valued value.
One supposed generation of boys compared to every generation of women isn't the flex you think it is. Only 35% of women in STEM careers and that drops to 24% for engineers. Management in STEM field is even worse. Looks like the guys still have a competitive advantage despite all the female hype you claim eliminated their chances.
In the US in particular you see extreme limits on bodily autonomy. A health system that delivers worse results for women. Hell, the states never even ratified an equal rights amendment for women. Things are still very bad for women and that is not even getting into partner abuse or topics like rape.
I can't help but feel these manosphere fucks pushing the false narratives are filling young men's heads full of garbage. Blaming others is never a good look, but they can't help it because it works and they are charlatans.
Did you know that in nonreciprocally violent heterosexual relationships (i.e. only one of the two partners is violent), women are the perpetrators over 70% of the time? Yet, domestic violence is most often treated like a thing with only male perpetrators and female victims.
The narrative is such that the public consciousness is so skewed that you're not aware that women rape men as much as men rape women, are you? Successful feminist lobbying (primarily attributed to Mary Koss) to call the rape of a man by a woman something other than "rape" so that female rapists can 'fly under the radar' on "rape statistics" is the primary reason this is so uncommonly known.
If you think underreporting and a lack of justice is bad for female victims of male rapists, your head will explode if you objectively look at the respective rates for male victims of female rapists.
It's bad for both sexes, but it is literally objectively worse for males. Your ignorance of this subject just proves how wide the empathy gap really is.
The Innocence Project is all about getting wrongfully convicted people out of prison. Check out the linked list, filter it for "sex crimes" if you like, look at the years and decades of wrongfully-served prison time, then see if you can find any women.
There are no cases of a man molesting a girl and then successfully gaining both legal custody of the child, and legally-awarded child support - from the child he molested. But reverse the genders, and precisely that has happened.
This constant trivialization/erasure of male suffering just makes it clear how little people like you actually care about equality. Anyone truly seeking equality would be equally outraged about injustices suffered by both sexes.
Men aren't victims, and women aren't perpetrators if you can just define it away...
"News flash, women have it faaaaaaaaar better than men." - Galactose@sopuli.xyz
Going to leave this here for posterity in case you try to edit this comment too.
What makes you think me deleting my post meant anything ?? I want to save server space, but hey thanks for proving how much of a raging rage-baiter you are.
Correction: you are a misandrist, not a rage-baiter
"I deleted my sexist comment because I wanted to save the server 57 bytes!!!!!1111"
Suuure you did champ.
Coward.
I mean... reverse sexism it is wrong as well, just like reverse racism. Racism is racism it can come from any side, same thing with sexism, but it does not make the term less right, just inaccurate (and legally invalid but this is not a court and we are no judges).
Yeah I never really liked the definition of racism = prejudice + power. People can get caught in the crossfire even if they aren't the ones in power, same with sexism. I hate ragebait like this because it's usually divisive for no gain to anyone.