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Thank you for giving me more time to figure out alternatives
Yeah, keyword here is "delay".
I just found out about Fluxer today. I might tinker around and see if it’s any good.
Move to matrix. It’s very stable, maturing up well, and has almost all of the discord features including streaming/video chat.
Do you have a recommendation for which project to host and/or clients to use? There are so many.
Get element desktop or element x, and start by just having an account on matrix.org. If you are reasonably nerdy and have hardware or a VPS, then start a synapse server.
Tuwunel or Contiuwuity for the server and Commet for the client(though presently you'll need to provide another client to register)
Why do you think that’s a good suggestion for a newcomer?
The servers I suggested are much lighter and simpler to setup than synapse. Commet is very Discord like which lets you on board people much easier than Element. It also supports voice rooms unlike Cinny(waiting for this to merge https://github.com/cinnyapp/cinny/pull/2680)
I host two homeserver, one on synapse and one on continuwuity, both pretty small (tens of users), but with users in lots of large rooms. The second one was significantly easier to set up, and uses a lot less resources.
Also, element and element X work, but aren't great. It depends on the user, of course, but I don't think you get people by giving them the 'dumbed down' version.
Stoat & Fluxer are your new friends :)
Nether of them are your friends. Fluxor seems a bit sketchy with their limited time cash grab of lifetime memberships, and GitHub history compression. Stoat is basically discord 8 years ago and is in the UK where age verification is law. It has time to change and their privacy policy doesn't look great (they also collect information from you).
Fluxor could be fine, I am just skeptical of it at the moment.
Stoat is better than discord, but not by much.
Fluxer has been in development for a while, it just only recently went public. Everything has to go public at some point. Judging something just because of that feels ignorant and kinda stupid
Also literally every thing ever in the history of business. Has had initial investors of some descriptions. Again this feels insanely stupid to judge something because it's trying to gather seed money.
300k wasn't even a lot of money. For what fluxer is trying to do it's going to need millions and a steady inflow of cash.
If anything the fact they didn't try to get more money is a red flag.
No, the red flag is being 'self-hostable', but trying to concentrate all your users in a central, non-federated, monetised instance.
Also, we cannot verify how long they where in development because they squashed their git commits. There's usually no good reason to do that.
Movim seems like a much better option, they just need a few weeks to get a couple of extra features out
Tell me more?
https://movim.eu/
It's based on XMPP, which means it's open-source, federated, and has E2EE in private chats. It also supports video calls, including in groups (which most other Discord alternatives have problems with).
Also, there's no phone number or even email requirement to sign up. You can set a recovery email, but you can skip that step during setup. Just pick a server, username, and password
The main thing it's missing right now is "places" aka what Discord calls servers/guilds. But they're currently working to roll that feature out soon
https://slrpnk.net/post/34490207
haven't gotten around to trying it myself. But the fact that it's built on XMPP is cool, and I hate that that all these new clients seem to develop their own new standards rather than build off what already exists.
Sounds like movim as a project has been around for a while, but recently moved to be more discord like in intention, so it's picked up interest there.