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[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 101 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's because nouns in Spanish carry gender! Which is crazy but it works.

"San Francisco" → Francisco is a male name.

"Santa Bárbara" → Baŕbara is a female name.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 52 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Masculine form would be santo like in Santo Domingo. San seems to be an abbreviated form of that.

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 75 points 1 week ago (2 children)

SANTO FRANCISCO, THE EVEN GAYER SAN FRANCISCO 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️❤️

[–] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

This might be the most important comment ever. I'm honored to have been here.

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

San is the apocope of santo (masculine form of saint), all masculine names use the form San except those that start with the syllables to- or do-.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

See? English isn’t the only language with semi-arbitrarily pointless rules

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, "Santo" is the better example. I'm actually not sure if there's any particular distinction for why sme place names are "San" and other are "Santo", perhaps it comes from historical baggage from whichever branches of explorers / conquerers founded each town.

[–] FloMo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

To the best if my knowledge, Santo is used to clarify the difference between the title and the name.

Santo Tomás being the simplest example I can think of, as “San Tomás” can be confused as as “Santo Más”.

Everything else is pretty spot on and an excellent explanation!

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

All masculine saint names use the form San except those names that start with the syllables to- and do-.

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So is there something we haven't been told about Claus / Klaus?

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My understanding is we have the Dutch to blame for that as they named him "Sante" and Spanish-speaking countries adapted the sound into "a" for whatever reason. Basically it's "whole" proper name derived from elsewhere.

[–] ValiantDust@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it's Sinterklaas and it was English-speaking Americans who changed it into Santa Claus. Probably misunderstanding the origin.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Americans also like to mispronounced things and then write down what it sounds like using words they already know.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You say that like it's unique to us. lol. That's how language works :)

He's a world-famous forklift driver.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

Well, Santa Claus doesn't operate in Spain so they got confused somewhere when translating the name

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

But Santa Claus is male. Checkmate, español.