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This is stupid people who didn't like Kamala because the was a genocide enabler weren't saying vote Trump wtf.
And anyway shit's over. This finger wagging told-ya-so bullshit is less than worthless. It's abundantly clear you can still lose to the worst person alive if people don't like you... So maybe force the Dems to run someone decent or make the Dems disappear. You're not gonna shame the electorate into the lesser of two evils crap, how have you not seen this yet? Regardless of how logical you think it is or how right you think you are. I think it's clear it's not working.
I just think the worse thing now is seeing the current lineup of candidates for 2028... shes still there and so are a bunch of others im pretty sure nobody wants.
That's part of why I'm being so vocal lately. I am going to vote in 2028, and I am not going to vote for someone who supports Israel. If that means writing in 'The Reanimated Corpse of Abraham Lincoln,' then so be it.
Assuming the Democrats have a primary this time, widespread anti-zionist sentiment could convince some people to work towards getting a candidate on the ballot who isn't a zionist. Harris and Newsom are destined to fail if they end up on the ballot in November. If these "vote blue no matter who" people really want a blue candidate in office, then let's work towards getting a blue candidate that can beat no preference.
Ro Khanna toed the line on pushing for Epstein disclosures. That's probably going my litmus test for humans vgoing forward, regardless whether he is permitted to progress
In the neo-liberal brain and rhetoric that's how they have to argue to get you to swallow the poison of the "lesser evil."
Dude could actually nuke Iran and kill millions and dumb assholes online still wouldn't concede that he is and was obviously the worse evil.
Edit: think I'm wrong? Think I'm exaggerating? Read the rest of the thread
people aren't saying that Kamala wasn't the lesser evil. They are saying that running evil candidates suppresses voter turnout and that doing so is a loosing strategy (unless doing evil is your gole, like the GOP)
I agree that it's a dumb strategy, but given the choice it's obvious that Harris was better qualified, less evil, and would not actively work to make your life worse. It's just that the average American voter is a window licker / paste eater so they voted for the other guy.
The difference between terrible and more terrible is a thin line. If you think the world is only binary choices then you're the type of person leftist rail against. There's more choices but Democrats would have you believe there isn't.
Not in this voting system there isn't. I don't know why online third party cranks are so fucking abysmal at game theory. It's blatantly obvious that only two outcomes are possible on general election day but you lot think you can manifest third party viability through shit posting.
It's not game theory when you see the two parties as the same side of the same coin which is what people like you fail to realize. Let me put it this way, there are Democrats still voting FOR Trump appointees, and it's not a few of them. If they're really "The Resistance" like they want us to think they can start but not voting with the fascists. But hey, blue no matter who, right?
Same side of the same coin? That is...not the expression.
I'm pretty sure Trump could actually nuke Iran and you'd still be on here talking about how Harris would've been bad...exactly how I was saying in my first response.
There's a time to vote for an alternative in the US system. That time is during the primary. If you actually gave a shit you'd be advocating for ranked choice, a change to the funding system of elections, or both. But nope, you're just another one of Trump's useful idiots.
Yes, because evil is still evil. What in the living fuck do you not understand supporting Harris was still supporting Israel as well. Jesus fucking christ you people tire the fuck out of me with your inane vote blue no matter who lesser of two evils bullshit. As long as you continue to play with their games they'll continue to never improve. So you can continue and hope for harm reduction or not vote, campaign for those you would like to actually see and refuse to vote for those you don't like at all. Because right now, Newsom is looking like the Democrat's candidate of choice and he's goddamn awful of a politician and person.
Look man, the American electorate did what you wanted and didn't vote for Harris. Things looking better? Things improving?
Voted for Harris, regret the vote now because I argue with insincere, blame mongers like you. And believe it or not, there's improvement in areas of voting with the younger MAGA becoming disillusioned and realizing they were wrong, swapping to Democrats who are seeing a rise of non-conservative candidates running for various offices.
How long would it be before another Republican became president because of Democrat ineptitude anyway if things continued on this trajectory? We're driving off a cliff, the Dems are just not accelerating while the GQP are. In the end, we're still getting closer to that cliff!
Yep, you got me, I'm a dyed-in-the-wool "blue no matter who" blame monger 👍. Not just a guy who can obviously see that the American electorate had a simple choice at general election time and chose...poorly.
I'll once again state the obvious: shit is NOT better than it was before the American electorate "taught" the Democrats a "lesson" by not voting for Harris.
But hey, at least we have folks like you who look on the bright side. Even if the Democratic establishment is still completely the same, and largely "learned" the "lesson" that Harris was "too woke" and "cared too much about pronouns", the Republicans are even more nakedly authoritarian because that resulted in electoral success for the mad king, we're "all gas, no brakes" going over the cliff, and we've taken several large steps toward accelerating the worst of the climate crisis.
That's not to mention the building full of schoolchildren, the people ICE disappears and kills, etc. etc. forever.
You're exhausting to go back and forth with, and there's no value in these exchanges. So enjoy your optimism and I won't be typing any further responses. Keep advocating for third parties that'll never mathematically work in the system we have. I'm sure you'll continue to enjoy electoral success! 🫡
I know many Muslims in Michigan that voted for Trump because Kamala supported Israel...
anecdotes are not data
Fuck ‘em
Duverger’s law, the way the elections are winner takes all makes it mathematically certain there are only two viable options. It’s basic math which people failed at.
duvergers law does not say that. it's not"basic math". it's a useless tautology
You also have to include the swing states having a highly disproportionate amount of voting power, the wealthy having a disproportionate amount of influence, and the electoral college making small farm states election makers
Which makes it all the more important for candidate not to pull a Harris and try to gaslight voters.
https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691169446/democracy-for-realists
Sometimes what you don't say is more important than what you do say. Many on the left were manipulated and used to boost the fascist. Something many to this day are still too sensitive about to acknowledge.
There wasn't Mass coverage and protest that all major party candidates supported the genocide. Only Harris. In all the Zionist and oligarch media, every day it was wall to wall coverage of the people calling Harris out over it. It was legitimately used to launder Donald Trump's image.
The fact that the vitriol and hatred that anyone who pointed this out got back then. And still gets today, proves that many failed to learn the important lesson. While they were absolutely correct to criticize Harris for her support. They were wrong to only focus on her over it. Even if symptoms like trump and everyone in his administration met the gallows tomorrow. These same people will continue to naively allow themselves to be weaponized against the achievable over the perfect. Ultimately getting more symptoms elected in the future, and allowing the Overton window to ratchet further and further to the right. National Democrats are horrible allies, they're unfortunately the best we have.
So much so it becomes plausible that they might not actually be allies.
They certainly aren't. They're not even allies to themselves. But without them we have little hope of getting anything passed. And without us they stand little chance of getting elected. Neither of us would choose to ally with the other.