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[–] ech@lemmy.ca 175 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

And grok used to mean "understand", not "nazi shithead propaganda machine".

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 51 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And meme used to refer to a unit of cultural information that spreads by imitation, not a funny picture on social media.

[–] TheBlindPew@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In fairness to memes, that definition is still largely true, its just that the common usage tends to refer to this specific form of meme. Like with squares and rectangles, not all anthropological memes are image macros, but all image macro memes are a subset of anthropological memes

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago

This feels like your boss saying you get a company car and then giving you a scale model of a car with the company logo on it.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Memes are absolutely fascinating

[–] orenj@leminal.space 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It was one of my favorite words.

Such is life

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

We still have extortion

The X makes it cool 😎

(I see the Futurama reference didn't work sorry)

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s only because someone else took the letter X and made it objectively uncool. What a shithead.

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

True. I forgot about that. Mostly because fuck Twitter and that guy anyway.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I recommend Stranger In A Strange Land by Robert Heinlein. It's a pretty influential work of early science fiction.

Mind you, it's been like 30 years since I read any Heinlein. Not sure I'd feel the same way about his stuff now as late teen me did, but the many books of his I read definitely shaped a lot of my philosophy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

LOL. That's great. Yeah, it really doesn't hold up. I think a lot of my enjoyment of Heinlein came from being a horny teen with a Christian upbringing seeing a different take on sexuality. Stranger in a Strange Land was one of the last of his I read and not my favourite. The Number of The Beast was the first one of his I read.

Edit: Apparently I watched that video 6 years ago and left a comment. I've been a subscriber to that channel for a while.

[–] Cease@mander.xyz 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah no sorry the origin was always gross. Stranger in a strange land is just heinlein's weird fetish porn where he justifies old men sleeping with young girls (sound familiar?)

And grok was always a term used by weirdos who thought the book was deep for some crazy reason and wanted to sound like they were part of this insider intellectuals club

[–] KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Please don't interpret this as a defense of Robert Heinlein's books as it has been decades since I read them and it sounds like you might be more familiar with them. But weren't all the women in Stranger in a Strange Land older than Michael Valentine Smith?

Are you confusing the character with Lazarus Long from Time Enough for Love, et al? I think he was thousands of years older than some of his (adult) love interests...

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

What? He gets freaky in some other books, but Stranger is pretty clean for a free love manifesto. Every character I can think of was a full grown adult, I don't think there's a single scene even euphemistically depicting an old man sleeping with a young girl. All the sex even referred to was between people of relatively close age.

Grok just means to understand/drink fully. You drink water, and it becomes a part of your body. You understand an idea, and it becomes part of your mind. It's an efficient word to communicate "understanding something fully enough to functionally incorporate it into your worldview". It's not that intellectual.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I dunno. I only ever used it as shorthand for being able to understand the basics of something. Also, words can change for the better. So in this case it went gross -> fine -> gross.

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

Grok was also a support character in the game Paladins.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm going to keep using it as a verb. If people are dumb enough to assume I'm dumb enough to use xai, that's not my problem.