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Why 40%? The value of his labor that's being redirected to the pockets of wealthy CEOs is much higher than that.
My calculations when i was working in a factory came out to about a 97.65% loss on my labor. Every piece i made was sold for $75, took me about a minute to make, and included about 7 other people to sell (oven, paint, quality inspection, forklift to trailer, forklift off trailer, stocker, cashier), 3 more if you include the parts before me (material procurement, forklift to trailer, and the same guy as before to take it off the trailer)
I made easily 90 parts an hour, and was paid $25 an hour regardless of output. I paid 15% on taxes (fed, state, local) because im married and my wife cant work. The quarterly pizza party or $100 bonus was absolutely not worth the cost of my labor.
40% of his pay. They don't pay workers the full value of their labor... that would be ridiculous! Communism, even!
There's another 30% that goes to non-cannibalistic regular pedophiles.
Because it said pay and not value?
Whoosh
Woosh indeed. Mind explaining the punchline?
I'm well aware of what OP's intent was. My comment was highlighting the inherent absurdity of complaining about taxes, which are by no definition "theft" and which are actually used to enrich your fellow man (no, I don't need to hear about military spending or whatever other government outlay you personally object to; even in the US there are still tax funded programs that benefit the average person, despite the Republicans best efforts), rather than directing your anger at the far greater amount of our productivity that is literally stolen from us by the super wealthy.
Oh so it just wasn’t funny. Got it.
OK. Bye Felicia 👋
It varies by industry, but generally you are correct.
So many layers of tax, each bleeding a worker who would otherwise be able to contribute more to the other workers.
Taxes are how you contribute to other workers. The notion that taxes are "stolen" is libertarian bullshit preached by the people who want to drive us back into feudalism.
BBQ parties and helping them move are how you contribute to other workers.
Sales taxes are how you still cant afford bratwurst.
And when they say your taxes go to healthcare, you think it goes to doctors and nurses. Actually most of it goes to brian thompson types.
Ah yes, regular BBQ parties are notably more valuable than healthcare. Of course. Turns out my $700 pellet smoker can do the job of an entire hospital and I never knew!
tax money goes to consultants. lobbyists. hospital non-compete clauses. administration. hospital ai. ceo paychecks. drug monopolies. patents. buying bias in science, etc.
also, taxing the rich is possible if the system becomes simpler. the more complex the system, the greater the lawyers payout
None of those things are arguments against having taxation. You're just quibbling over how taxes are collected and spent.
...in a system where politicians actually represent their constituents instead of their corporate donors.
Even feudal lords demanded tribute. That's basically what taxation is in a system where the government is this blatantly corrupt.
At this point I no longer believe taxes go to anything good. Even the fucking welfare is all a grift with these politicians.
So the orange one paying to prevent wind farm construction is contributing to the workers? 🤔
No matter what, you will always be able to name a government expenditure you personally disagree with. It is ridiculously childish to conclude from that fact that government spending as a whole should not exist.
No, but the alternative is not some no-tax, every-person-for-themselves anarchy.
Please do yourself and others a favor and don't conflate libertarians with actual anarchism.
whilst modern anarchism certainly has a lot of good points to make, anarchism in general also covers some pretty horrendous ways of structuring society…
anarchism is, at its core, is just absense of government and rulers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy
that original definition pretty well covers “everyone for themselves anarchy”
you can argue “yes but no serious anarchist”, but the word at its core doesn’t just mean the serious and thought out structures
it is what it is: anarchy can mean chaos, it’s just that when discussing with people who are discussing the implementation of anarchy, it’s widely agreed that chaos is not the goal and thus other systems are put in place
it is frustrating that the modern version of the word has become synonymous with only the kind of anarchism that’s generally agreed is not the way any of this should be implemented… but anarchism still covers those shit takes
That's certainly... true enough from a prescriptivist perspective. However the layman likely doesn't care about all that, and frankly neither do I. Anarcho-capitalism (US libertarianism, read: feudalism) is about as true to "modern anarchism" as Nazism (fascism) is to socialism.
Anyway, I find your "contribution" kinda unhelpful and kinda masturbatory, so... goodbye
It is extremely frustrating that anarchism had been deliberately stigmatized and demonized through all forms of media for decades. Like someone in a movie describing a riot as "total anarchy."
Yeah, the unending propaganda is just awful. And necessary to perpetuate any system that can't stand on its own merits. "Tyranny requires constant effort."