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[–] 0ndead -5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Berkley is a poor example for the fuck cars arguments

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] 0ndead -4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

Sounds like you’ve never been there

Maybe stick your commenting on Canadian topics instead of cities you’ve never visited.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I've been there and you're full of shit.

It's better than most American cities but that's like saying it smells better than most dead fish.

[–] 0ndead 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I think it's been slightly more than a year but somehow I doubt they've transformed the entire city in the last 18 months.

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

Yeah that's why I said I doubt it, not I know for a fact that's not the case. Because I don't know first hand. That's literally what the text of my comment implies and was meant to imply.

The doubt comes from the fact that I literally can't envision any scenario at all whatsoever where prioritizing car parking anywhere for anything is actually beneficial to anyone, including car users themselves.

[–] Pomal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

InfoSec.pub user, you probably make 6+ figures and haven’t ridden a bike in iver a decade.

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, in my experience that's exactly the kind of person I'd expect to see on a bike.

[–] Pomal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

While these sets do overlap, they aren’t as complete as most might think. There’s still a lot of pinkertons lurking around in that crowd.

[–] 0ndead 0 points 3 hours ago (2 children)
[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Buddy, you can't even make a convincing argument.

Quiet, piggie.

[–] 0ndead -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

You’ve clearly already lost the argument when you resort to insults.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm still waiting for a convincing argument, and you're not providing one.

Every time you continue to do so, you're eating away your credibility and any respect that you should be given.

🤡👞

[–] 0ndead -2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Not a single post you've made on lemmy has been multi-paragraph. I don't think there's any point arguing with you because you seem like you'd enjoy a roll in the mud. I'm not sure you could string a cohesive argument together.

[–] 0ndead 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Pomal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Case in point, you want to make policy that you’ve only seen one side of the story without living the other end of it.

[–] 0ndead 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

That’s not the case. I’m pro bike, pro-bike lanes. I’m pro bike lane in Berkley. But I also recognize the need for residents of Berkley to have adequate parking.

[–] Pomal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

How many people who live and work throughout the area would prefer to commute via public infra vs personal. The preponderence of those lower income individuals who do make up the majority of the lower class are pushed out further when they aren’t considered.

[–] 0ndead 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I’d argue that a lot of the lower income residents need their cars/parking more to survive. Especially in a high cost of living area.

[–] Pomal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Lower income residence can’t afford cars dude. Take the local minimum wage, find an apartment that could be reasonably split up between n-roomates and then do the math on where the money goes from there. It’s expensive to be poor.

[–] 0ndead 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I don’t disagree with your last statement. However, “house poor” is a thing. People squeaking by on the mortgages. They don’t deserve parking near their homes?

[–] Pomal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

“House Poor” is white people problems morty. Imagine actually being housing insecure and not by choice.

[–] 0ndead 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

I’m gonna hard disagree with you here. And not sure how race factors into bike lanes or parking.

[–] Pomal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What does their code/law say? If they don’t have on-site parking then that’s a feature and not a bug.

[–] 0ndead 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Say you have a two car garage, and your kid turns 18 and they need a car to get to college. You give them your old car and buy yourself an EV. They can’t park on the street they live on due to a bike lane. Is that fair to a family paying property taxes in Berkley?

[–] Pomal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)
  1. they’re well enough off that they can afford to commute to college instead of living on campus.
  2. it is fair, that’s the point of public taxes and social services. Is it fair that I have to subsidize O&G through my federal tax dollars even though I don’t own a vehicle?
[–] 0ndead 1 points 7 minutes ago

But you don’t subsidize these bike lanes because you don’t live in Berkley.

[–] 0ndead 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So you’re a Berkley resident, and therefore entitled to an opinion?

[–] Pomal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I’ve biked and driven through berkley, and would consider myself entitled to a qualified opinion.

[–] 0ndead 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You would be the only other person in this thread that should be commenting then.

[–] Pomal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

I appreciate that, thank you.