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[–] PizzaLamp25@lemmy.world 69 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

American here, so you have paid time off but greedy American capitalism boss can deny for any reason. Not enough staff, busy company time, favoritism, or simply fuck you I dont like you.

Some companies can give you monies at the end of year for your paid time off, but some don't and it's wasted due to greedy capitalism boss and given to the company casue companies have better rights then people.

For example my company and boss I work for is cool about giving time off when requested, however starting next year my company will not pay out unused PTO because reasons.

Hope this helps!

[–] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Thank you for the explanation. But isn't the phrasing in the meme totally soul-crushing?

You get 40 hours this year - all year - where you don't have to work for us.

(uttered by some company suit)

seems to be the implication.
In Europe, even part-time workers' time off is counted in "days off." Even if the end result were the same, I just think it sounds a lot nicer for the employee. "Hey boss, I won't be coming in for the next two weeks. Nah, make that three."

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 32 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

An old job of mine would constantly deny my PTO requests. It was weird - I'd always have to call in sick on those days anyway. Funny how the world works.

[–] Feidry@sh.itjust.works 27 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, the problem is with the wording. This isn't a request. It's a notice. I will not be here these days. Prepare for my absence or don't, up to you. Again, I won't be here to deal with the fallout in either case.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 16 points 5 hours ago

I had a greedy capitalist boss once who wanted to deny unpaid time off.

I literally told him, "I'm not going to be here on those days. If I still have a job when I get back, that's nice. If I don't, that's okay too." I'm not going to work at any job that thinks they own me like a slave. And guess what -- when I came back, I did still have a job.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 7 points 5 hours ago

The issue is that they specifically forced us to use a program that calls them requests and clarifies that they can be denied for any reason. Verbal agreements aren't valid. One time they even accepted my request through the program, then denied it a few days later because one of the managers wanted to take that day off and they didn't want too few staff members there. You bet your ass I was "sick" that day.

[–] runner_g@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Depending on the state you live in, that may be illegal. Many states consider accrued PTO as part of your compensation and you must be paid at your hourly rate (or salary equivalent if necessary) upon leaving the company.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 7 points 5 hours ago

That's one reason why companies started "unlimited" pto. It's no longer part of your compensation so they no longer have to pay it out since how much is "unlimited" worth? That said it's still not unlimited because you have responsibilities which if you don't complete because you were on pto still counts against you.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Such a weird thing from a european perspective. Here in Germany, you as a worker are obligated to take your vacation days. It even can happen that your boss asks you to take your vacation if you forget to.

[–] PizzaLamp25@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I wish it was like that, I even work for a German company, but don't get treated quite as nice. I guess for American standards, and it's low unfortunately, it's a good company to work for.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 4 points 5 hours ago

I guess that's cause our laws force companies to make their employees take the mandated pto else they'd get into trouble. But they can aparently get away with treating overseas workers worse

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

In the Netherlands you're only obligated to take the days that your employer is mandated to give you (20 days per year). But most employers give more, and if you don't take those up, you can often have them paid out or save them for later years.

[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 3 points 3 hours ago

I had 30 days for my jobs in Germany and the Netherlands. In some jobs you "earn" more with age or staying a certain amount of years in the company.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Which state do you live in? It’s very illegal to not pay out unused PTO in many states.

[–] PizzaLamp25@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 5 hours ago