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[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Libs get real offended if you just flatly say that Israel does not have a right to defend itself.

liberal discourse about "rights" always misses the point anyway. Israel has always used the idea that it guarantees more "democratic rights" than the surrounding Arab states as evidence that it has measurehead SVPERIOR CVLTVRE frothingfash etc. etc.

Israel has the power to defend itself. Where does it get that power? From the imperial core states (especially NATO/EU members) pouring money into it. Why do they do that? Because settler colonies are forward operating bases for imperial core capitalists. You can set up a situation where people have "equal rights" on paper, but in practice, violence decides what the actual material conditions are. Segregation in the united states always claimed to be "separate but equal" even as black people were made to suffer systemic discrimination (and continue to be made to suffer obviously)

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

Libs get real offended if you just flatly say that Israel does not have a right to defend itself.

Saw someone do this on Sky News of all places today lmao, interviewer didn't know how to react.