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It drives me insane how these damned leftists refuse to work with fascists so they can beat the fascists!

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

Yeah let's cooperate with a group whose one of goals is to wipe out any left leaning group. Liberals and centrists literally do not have a functional brain

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yea because liberals never work with fascists.

you don't even need to look at history, look at present, Democrats and Republicans were both clapping together at SOTU when it came to defending Israel.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago
[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they're obviously stupid, but one of the best to ever do it did essentially side with the fascists before destroying them. mao-shining

[–] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Yes but they don't want change, they just want the systems they interact with to not change drastically one way or the other. That's a problem when the systems are unsustainable and driving these outcomes, but unfortunately this :LIB: is stupid and will keep voting for rational fascism.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

"FACTIONAL LEFTIST INFIGHTING IS THE SAME AS DENOUNCING THE FASCIST DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF THE UNITED STATES!!!!"

"Denouncing genocide = 'HOLIER THAN THOU'!"

Anon, I...

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

leftists are stupid and muck up every chance at securing power they possibly get

that's why i'm voting for a centrist liberal

pooh-wtf

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

But wasn't it Forza Italia, Lega Nord, and Five Star Movement withdrawing support that led to Drahgi resigning? Forza Italia and Lega Nord are right wing parties. M5S is the closest to a left wing party, and they explicitly reject being on the left-right spectrum.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

we are stupid, thus only solution is to eliminate private property holders and make comedy sitcom of leftist parliament infighting

[–] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Didn't Mussolini come to power because a centrist liberal government was too weak to violate the law and crush him and his blackshirts? I would think the priority of anyone trying to prevent fascism would be to prevent a weak unpopular liberal leader who will cave to the fascists under the slightest pressure from coming to power.

[–] muddi@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't that how fascism got its start? The sentiment that socialists were ineffective and indecisive, and taking advantage of the vacuum left by conflicts between socialists and liberals...also that is as much on liberals refusing to compromise leftwards as the contrapositive

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

my impression is the contrary, it was the success of socialism at capturing mass opinion that frightened the petit bourgeois into pumping money and resources into fascist movements

[–] muddi@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the fascists themselves at least claimed to be a third way beyond liberalism and socialism which they saw as ineffective right? Even before the petit bourgeois started backing them

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fascists didn't claim to be a third way until they were being pumped full of money. Before that they were mostly former soldiers turned into lumpen-proles and gangsters, who thought that they had been sold out by either the socdems, liberals or socialists. It wasn't about perceived weakness or ineffectiveness on the left, it was about how to achieve personal power regardless of rhetoric. One of the reasons leftists are "holier than thou" (which, to be frank, is simply ludicrous for actually existing popular leftist movements of the era) was because of fascists stealing their popular messaging and language with no actual intention of attempting to deliver on those promises, and in many cases, do the opposite of what they were advocating for.

And this is besides the point that, in practice, fascists are liberals without a pretense of liberal philosophy or civility fetish.

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The folks who read books are big dumb

[–] Anne_Teefa@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure that's why they read em. Dummies. Who doesn't already know everything the minute they come out the puss? Right?

[–] trumpetnoises@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone tell this guy about actually existing socialism

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

And Operation Gladio while they're at it

[–] disposable_cracker@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

>implying the election will ever be in leftists' hands

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

It’s Italy, every political party there is petty, backstabbing, and committing own goals.

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

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