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Shared by George Takei today on Mastodon.

Full of gems like: "Don’t dismiss their anger and pain. For people who consider themselves progressive, the war in Gaza with its high civilian casualties can create a strong sense of turmoil, disillusionment, frustration, and even stronger emotions like fury and disgust."

How to know if you're progressive?

  1. Does the ~~genocide~~ high civilian casualties of brown people frustrate or disgust you?

Here's the article if you want to lose some brain cells https://thinkbigpicture.substack.com/p/biden-gaza-israel-2024-election

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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

Genocide Joe supporters seem to lack basic human empathy or morals.

Disturbing

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

supports genocide

but he's a good man

Too heavy handed to ever be something penned as satire, but is our reality

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are liberals learning what principles are for the first time? lmao

[–] edge@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

This article seems so close to getting it, then decides that it doesn’t matter actually and they’ll definitely be able to convince anyone who has uttered the term “Genocide Joe” to vote for him anyway.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But this rarely works because 1) in their mind, nothing could be more evil or harmful than genocide

How can someone possibly write this and not second guess themself? Yes, genocide is indeed pretty much the most evil thing.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

"They failed to consider that Tronald Dumpf will enact TURBO Genocide!"

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you considered that Joe Biden is a nice man?

[–] Wolfman86@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Yeah, nice men are easy going …

[–] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the war in Gaza with its high civilian casualties

we are reaching new levels of passive voice

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

the occurrence in the world where civilians stop

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I seriously want somebody to ask a notable super-lib like Takei - how much suffering and genocide would it take for you to stop supporting Biden. 75,000 dead - plus a corresponding number of injured and missing which means probably dead? If not that then 100,000+? 125,00+? 150,000+?

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't he have a comic about how poorly japanese Americans were treated? Guess it's okay if it's happening to Palestinians not him

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

I assume that he has American exceptionalism brain even though he and his family were put into a Japanese internment camp.

not him

Sympathy is so simple. Just look at those poor people and how they are suffering.

Empathy is anything but simple. I could be one of those poor people.

It will never fail to amaze me how many people are pathologically unable to move beyond sympathy. They have a defective or nonexistent sense of empathy and I don't think it can be mended.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

“But Trump would kill 50 quintillion so you have to vote for Biden.”

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago

So it's okay when Israel does it George? https://www.topshelfcomix.com/mobile/catalog/george-takei-they-called-us-enemy/1011

Or cause it's not happening to you directly...

[–] idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

listen fat, the only thing that can stop a bad guy doing a genocide is a good guy doing a genocide

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

They always take this preachy, condescending tone like they're lecturing a child about right and wrong.

Liberals, please understand : not everyone shares in this idea that you should get to assume a moral high-ground by default, especially on the issue of minimizing an ongoing genocide to try to pressure people into voting for a candidate that is shitty even aside from their material support for that genocide.

Liberal proselytizers come across as deeply repellent in general, and this behavior only makes it worse.

[–] PurrLure@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Nice guys logic cranked up to 100.