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[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 89 points 2 years ago (4 children)

note that Japanese read pictures from right to left, while Western readers read left to right. Westerners view the last image as an awesome wave and usually miss the boats, while Japanese viewers relate to the boats first and then feel how doomed they are.

[–] SofiaFranklyn@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago

Dude, I've never noticed the boats.

[–] rektdeckard@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I never imagined how this would apply to images. Fascinating! I wonder what other art has a totally different tone to native RTL readers.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I learned this from hentai

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

But to be serious for a moment, I just happen to be watching The Great War Of Archimedes right now and it is only now dawning on me how much of the action takes place from right to left.

Now, I believe this film was based on a Manga, so it is less surprising that it would inherently adopt that visual language, but now I am going to be watching all Japanese cinema more closely to see how fundamentally RTL impacts the approach to film making.

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[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Well now I'm just confused about how I am supposed to read the image. Like... It's numbered 1 2 3 4. Is that top left to bottom right? Which one is the "last" one? Which one is the "first" one?

I could probably just look it up, but ehh.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How could you miss the 3 boats?

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait that's 2 more fuckin boats? Wth!

Anything else you wanna add? Is there a dragon somewhere I'm not seeing as well

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yes… BEHIND YOU!

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

try flipping the picture horizontally, its a very different experience

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Hey, I'm going to leave this up since it's aroused interest, but for future reference, HistoryPorn is for photographs. HistoryDrawings or HistoryArtifacts would be more appropriate for this kind of content.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 87 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy isn't really big enough yet to support small communities like that. Reddit needed to make super niche communities because it's so busy.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 2 years ago

Clearly this belongs in HistoryDrawingsOfJapaneseWater

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I apologize. It's been too long since I read the rules in the sidebar.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

No worries! I'm always happy to see contributions, just letting you know for future reference.

[–] kender242@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Would you mind linking to the other instances?

Didn't know I would need to subscribe to multiple families of a history porn 😅

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Each of theese communities is averaging between 1 post a week and one post a month, why not combine them into one community that could be getting 3 posts a week?

[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, this is just needless pedantism and ego-stroking.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What about actual historical works of pornography?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Autochrome 1907-1912

Like this?

Bluffing IMO.

1907/1912 Autochrome photograph.

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[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (5 children)

But which way are the pictures displayed?

1 2 
3 4

1 3
2 4
[–] snooggums@midwest.social 34 points 2 years ago

Top left is going to be first, bottom right is last. Since bottom left is pretty close in structure to bottom right, I'm going with top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right.

That fits the reading pattern of western cultures.

[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Left right top bottom, like how we read. You can see a pretty linear evolution in the style.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think that's the intended way too, but it's not exactly a given as other languages have different reading patterns. Japan, for instance, reads right to left, and others read vertically.

[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yea but this is in English made for an English community. It's pretty safe to assume.

[–] terabytes@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago

I believe this is a screenshot of a Twitter post, which would make the order your first example.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well if it's japanese, I'd say option B..

But the paintings look more like A is correct.

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If it's Japanese if should go

3 1

4 2

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[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But but AI could do it better and it's not even ten years old yet!!!!!!

Also the waves would have titties

[–] moody@lemmings.world 21 points 2 years ago

Also the waves would have titties

Well I'm sold

[–] Redfox8@mander.xyz 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Then you need 3 titties to match

[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Very interesting, I have never seen the earlier versions before. I wonder why I can't find a Fuji in two of those, because The Great Wave is part of a "Views of Mt. Fuji" series.

[–] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Lol, that would be such a troll move in a series of Fuji paintings. As far as I known Hokusai painted mainly two things, landscapes including Mt. Fuji and explicit porn scenes. He was a trained Mt. Fuji Painter, which is a respected craft with a specialized apprenticeship in Japan btw.

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[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, notice the final version does include Fuji. For some reason OP neglected to post it, so here: Sea is for Cookie

(and yes, this was a random encounter!)

[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Hahaha, I love it!

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Huh. Started at waist high and ended as five times Mount Fuji.

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[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well that first wave is fucking tiny.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

That's the OK wave. Followed by the decent wave, then the pretty good wave. The last one is the great wave.

Maybe the great wave is death in his eyes?

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago

Through this, we can conclude that Hokusai was the first Benjamin Button, due to his perspective getting shorter each time

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