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It's the dunk tank.

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[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 61 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Also, there need to be like 3 or 4 Palestinian flags on the GOP side because Trump would allow Netanyahu to brutalize Gaza pretty much without limit.

Unlike Biden, who is currently wagging his finger very hard at Netanyahu.

Yeah Biden is at least withholding certain weapons, pushing for aid, and pressuring for a ceasefire.

What weapons, and does that even matter? Pretty sure Israel is killing civilians no problem right now without whatever Wunderwaffen you're talking about.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Trump would

My least favorite grammatical construction.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Apparently the hypothetical evil Trump would commit gives Biden the defacto right to do the exact same thing

These idiots don't grasp that Trump potentially doing it DOES NOT excuse Biden actually doing it. He can just stop.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

He can just stop.

You gave me a posting idea. - https://hexbear.net/post/2724175

[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. I'm not going to make decisions based on what someone thinks someone else might do. I'm going to make decisions based on what I'm seeing actually transpire, with video and testimonial evidence.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It makes me sick to my stomach and fills me with rage that the liberal (and neoliberal) go-to comment about a continuing genocide is the insane argument: "You made a mistake. You forgot to consider that the other guy would be worse."

[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's nothing but slippery slopes lined with strawmen for them.

[–] Tiocfaidhcaisarla@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

Straw should make it less slippery :/

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

He's not sending Mobile Suits

[–] KoboldKomrade@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

Trump would nuke Palestine but Glorious Leader Biden merely firebombs it until its worse then nuked. Checkmate Tankie!

[–] TeddyKila@hexbear.net 53 points 11 months ago
[–] Mokey@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago (3 children)

What if u just reject the premise entirely

Maybe the trolley thing doesnt make sense and seeing things in that way is why things are that way

[–] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In this case at least it is completely absurd to frame it as a trolley problem. It presumes the murder of people is an inevitable event and not the result of the continued apathy of western citizens

[–] wild_dog@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

The trolley problem makes sense in the context it was developed for, which is to be an ethical thought experiment. It's got nothing to do with politics unless you're just a lazy thinker (which Biden fans pretty much are.)

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

the tracks are 'liberal ideology'

vote

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Biden's not doing so hot with Mexico either with his new executive order

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

"America shits and Mexico wipes" has been our policy towards Mexico for over a century and Mexico fucking knows it. Good job reinforcing that relation, Brandon.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago

Wow shucks I have no choice but to abandon dengism

[–] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

ok so let’s just say this is what’s going on. and just ignore the fact that the entirety of the double bind is literally just a form of blackmail by the DNC. If these are our only two options, and we have to pick one, these people are just fine with it? You’re talking about committing genocide regardless of the elected official. If you aren’t severely tempted to say things that would get you put on a list in that situation, then there’s something severely wrong with you.

There’s something deeply suspicious about the kind of person who pulls the lever without hesitating in the original trolley problem. Yeah, it’s the better choice to pull the lever, but people have a natural first aversion to it for a reason. We’re trying to find a way to avoid hurting anyone when we hesitate. And in almost any real life situation minus a fast paced military tactical decision, that’s actually helpful. Taking the first option you see that’s better than the previous option you see no matter what is not good decision making. There’s usually at least three options and you have to analyze them all, not just the first two you observe.

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago

The GOP is going to nuke Pakistan?

[–] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The trolley problem understanders have logged on:

[–] sneak100@hexbear.net 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

These people should get some kind of medal for their logic gymnastics

  1. Be lib, your life is consumerism
  2. Encounter people doing something to respond to a genocide
  3. ?????trump?troley???bzz??????election?lever??kill?one?guy????bzzzzt?????responsibility??
  4. Why of course my fellow redditor, the people doing anything about this are immoral since they're not getting their hands dirty in the voting booth, indeed
[–] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

they don’t understand that not voting is a political strategy to force democrats to actually do good things. When you think not voting is a moral failure you’re misunderstanding the fundamental philosophy of democracy (withholding your vote to ensure candidates do good things is literally the core of how democracy is supposed to work)

[–] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

so how exactly do these people justify being liberals rather than revolutionary communists then. because it sounds like they’ve come to the conclusion that negative peace is a thing but are just pretending it doesn’t apply to them

[–] nightshade@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

Not pictured: the fact that there are actually 95 and 100 people on the tracks and that the Democrats helped sabotage any other tracks at every juncture.

[–] trompete@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago

Most moral argument for supporting genocide.

[–] ta00000@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They could get 90% of us to vote for Biden if it was Biden voters who were leading every protest and actively pressuring him, and not apologizing for things like his anti immigration stance.

Show me some assurance that you do actually intend to work with us after the election, and you won't just go back to brunch to complain about all these dumb terrorist-supporting antisemitic kids. If Biden lost because of us that would mean the Dems would have to pay attention to our votes if they want to win going forward.

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago

smuglord "Hmph, but what if good things were impossible? What then STankies?"

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago

WE HAVE TO DO THE GENOCIDE OVER THERE SO WE DON'T HAVE A GENOCIDE OVER HERE!!! #VOTEBLUENOMATTERGENOCIDE

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

After r/neoliberal's incredible obliteration of leftists, Hexbear has two options now:

    1. Delete the entire site.
    1. Convert the site over to being a neoliberal haven that denounces all communist thought.

Which one are we doing, ~~comrades~~ buddies?

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

We may not be able to afford to convert. Only if Biden offers an amnesty to exchange all our XiBucks for BidenDollaridoos.

[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago

The load bearing trolley problem is the last thing holding this shithole country together.

refuse-the-question

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

If the image was in any way a realistic presentation, the only moral option would be this

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 20 points 11 months ago

Damn first comment I see and they fully don't understand the trolley problem i love Reddit

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

carlin-pog You have no choice.

[–] NecroticEuphoria@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Funny with that Mexican flag there. Last time I checked, the ICE concentration camps are still there to this day.

Edit: Sorry, I of course meant "detention facilities"

1000047673

[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

shrug-outta-hecks

If you find yourself in charge of a train track switch with multiple people strapped on the track, you dun fucked up, probably should rethink your life choices and then hand yourself in to ICC. For me, I'll vote with my conscience.

[–] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[–] EcoMaowist@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

The fact that a r/neoliberal exists and is popular has to be one of the weirdest things (I know it's backed by a think tank or smth but still).

[–] AmaryllisBlues@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago