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Maybe the solution is to stay off Twitter, but it's very disturbing to see the normalization of slurs happening in real time on there. White people saying the n-word with approval, the return of saying "gay" as a pejorative, lots of casual racism against Indian men, using the r-slur to describe something seen as stupid. I don't know whether this is a larger cultural lurch to the right, or whether it's mostly attributed to Musk's elimination of quality control and monitors on the platform.

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[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please stay off Twitter.

whether this is a larger cultural lurch to the right, or whether it's mostly attributed to Musk's elimination of quality control and monitors on the platform.

Chicken and egg

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Please stay off Twitter

What if I hate and want to punish myself

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

The BDSM community has healthier ways to do that.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

just do like the rest of us and study Althusser in the original French, that should cause enough pain

or I don't know, build a ship in a bottle

[–] booty@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I'm noticing this trend too actually. For a good few years it's been pretty firmly unacceptable socially to say the r-slur for example, with even complete chuds dancing around it with "oh yeah i cant say that anymore!" kind of stuff. But over the last year or so I've seen people just throwing it around like it's nothing again, and I'm always just like "wtf, did i just slip back into 2011?"

[–] nathanfieldertulpa@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ive even seen other leftists (and not just the stupidpol/red scare types) use the r slur. like, i know you know how bad that word is, why the fuck are you still saying it

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

My lib Zionist boss says it with impunity, guess they haven’t run into anyone to correct them

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

This happened in 2020 after Biden was elected. Liberals all breathed a sigh of relief that they could stop pretending to be anti-fascist warriors for democracy, and could go back to slinging slurs. I think it was just artificially unacceptable during the Trump years because it signaled you were Trumpist if you were giving chud signals

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One thing I can tell you is that people are a lot more willing to say slurs if they sense that they won't get criticized or penalized for it, and I'm speaking from experience. With Musk loosening rules on Twitter to a point where "cis" is considered more of a slur there than the n-word is, this is not a shocking development.

[–] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

hay guyz im seeing a bunch of slurs on the dying social media website only right wing freaks still use, are slurs becoming normalized?

[–] AlicePraxis@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't judge cultural trends by what's happening on X dot com, the cool people have either left or are spending significantly less time on the website formerly known as twitter, now that it's a project of the far-right. remember that people who donate to Musk literally get boosted by the algorithm

if people are saying it more in real life, especially young people, then that's a problem. I don't know if that's the case or not because I don't spend any time around teenagers

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Twitter is just full of the most reactionary people possible. This sort of thing is still unacceptable irl

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Unacceptable in public professional settings maybe. I feel like the only one who gives a shit in my industry

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I wish it was unacceptable everywhere. All of my good friends know better, but I've definitely had to do some group projects with people who don't even give off bad vibes but don't know how to be funny without saying the r slur and some homophobic slurs too. It's far too common behind closed doors. Maybe it's because I'm a white passing cishet dude so people feel more comfortable saying that stuff around me.

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago
[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

On a Q&A Chapo did, someone asked what to say to their friend who says Chapo uses the r-slur. The response from Felix was essentially (paraphrasing) "if people still accuse us of that why did we even stop using it" and i have heard it twice total on the pod since theni believe said by guests but i can't recall. Strange times we live in

[–] axont@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a person I talked to once said they couldn't listen to Chapo because of all the slurs and I can only believe people get it confused with cumtown

unless they're talking about slurs for italians

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cumtown has largely moved away from this type of humor since rebranding as TAFS as well. It’s not completely gone, but it’s not what it used to be.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, did you hear the Matt Healy episode? And they only got in trouble for that one because Swifties heard about it. They were still definitely doing a lot of the same humor.

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

I said largely lol. That episode was released over a year ago and got taken down anyway.

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How long ago was this q&a?

[–] Biggay@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

i think that was the episode 200 or 400 q and a where they also talked about what fursona they were.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

It was when they were asking people to submit audit questions i don't remember exactly but i can do some work looking for it i suppose

[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

i think that might just be twitter, but i have noticed a huge rise in casual homophobia from cis straight women (despite a decline in straight men) in the past couple years, at least in gen z

on tiktok and ig reels, there's constantly a new way to call x group of straight men "gay" without actually saying the word "gay" (and they always claim it's not homophobic)

"fruity," "zesty," "💅", "fruitcake," "closet is glass," "gun pink," etc., the most annoying things you can think of. i've heard it out in the wild too.

swear in 2023 it was like every month there was a new homophobic audio trend. "mmm, this one has a little sweetness to it," "de-nial is a river in egypt!" and the caption will be something like, "when he cares about approval from his guy friends more than his own girlfriend," or "when he says 'sorry' instead of 'my bad'"

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

"when he says 'sorry' instead of 'my bad'"

Ladies, is it gay to apologize to someone?

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anyone who does this, just call them a fujoshi or a porn addict if they look like they touch grass. Shuts them up real quick, especially if they are implying you're a pervert for not conforming to whatever arbitrary rule they made up.

"Of course you want to imagine me gay, you fucking fetishist."

[–] axont@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

i think it's just easier to do content moderation on websites and stuff on TV/movies has become more keen on scrubbing slurs, so it's seemed like slurs have been less normalized, maybe?

in daily life I haven't noticed any drop in slur usage since the 90s. People will still call stuff gay or homo in a negative way. I've had the homophobic f-word slur screamed at me by passing cars a few times while on my bike. My coworkers will let loose any number of slurs that they claim to not even realize are slurs, mostly the homophobic or transphobic kind.

Yeah and white people absolutely will say the n-word when they think they're in private company. I've had taxi drivers say it to me since they see a white person and think they can relax their language around me. I used to work at a grocery store around 2014 and older customers would regularly complain about prices and say "that n-word is making the prices higher" (referring to obama), like right at me at the register.

The USA is a fascist country and every new person I meet is regarded as a potential reactionary until proven otherwise. I put elderly white people under the most scrutiny. Explicitly, outwardly queer/trans people are the only types I feel really comfortable with anymore

[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, not white myself but a white buddy of mine said some random customer was complaining to him about the new Spider-Man game having an N-word protagonist...wild what people feel comfortable saying to strangers.

[–] SoloboiNanook@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Only slur I ever hear on a regular basis is the r-slur from people at work. That's it. I haven't heard someone say the n word in public in a hot minute and I don't think it would go well where I am (a not awful place in the south).

I think that's just twitter lol.

[–] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

It's just that Nazis are 90% of Twitter now

i have definitely seen "gay" and the f-slur come back, but a large percentage of the time its been by fellow lgbtq peeps, so i dunno? I don't really use them, but I don't see why we cant.

Haven't seen an acceptance of whitey using the n word without pushback, and casual racism against Indian men has always been "acceptable" here in amerikkka, so i dunno.

Yeah, the other day I posted about some assholes who made a yard sign that said gay and the r-slur in my neighborhood.

[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Instagram is fucking evil. I remember when I used to have an account they kept trying to push vile shit to me, even though I only followed the IWW and some art pages.

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

But that's just CCP propaganda! Meta is protecting our free speech, and using our data to train their AI to also be a good ol' amerikkkan boy

[–] charly4994@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I'm always taken a bit aback when people at work just go wild with slurs. You have the r-slur getting used just kinda flippantly for so much stuff where they could easily just pick another word, only had one person at my previous job really say it so this new job with like 4 people that use it is kinda disheartening. Also had a coworker use the f-slur when talking to me, they were quoting one of their children saying something along the lines of "X is for ..." but I'm kinda visibly queer so the sheer gall to just go with it anyway was something new.

Then the conversations I overhear about politics every so often make me just never want to hear them since I'd rather just not know how terrible everyone I work with is, it's easier to just maintain that professional friendliness when I don't have the back of my mind screaming 'THEY'RE HOGS BRAYING FOR THEIR TREATS OVER ALL ELSE'

[–] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Listening to Salem and sending reciprocated slurs in my group chats and zoomer scolds can't bully me.

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 year ago

using the r-slur to describe something seen as stupid.

...re-publican?..

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

I’ve noticed it a lot on tiktok as well

[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

I feel like people even on here want to have their cake and eat it too, so if they can't use the r slur they move to "-oid" type insults and just pretend they have no idea what lineage it has to ableist slurs and instead just do the exact same type of plausible denial excuses that right wingers use.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People are starting to get really tired of "woke" culture and pretending they're progressive

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

White people saying the n-word with approval

Normally this doesn’t bother me or the black people i know because most of the white kids saying it around here grew up in the same environments as us and everyone knows who’s real and who’s a racist asshole.

But nowadays streamer culture has basically forgone all this and just let everybody do everything for views. Adin Ross type e-celebs who have a bunch of clout with celebrities and rappers and everyone is desperate for some attention

lots of casual racism against Indian men

Unfortunately this has been around for a long time. It was around when I was a teenager. Back then it was just “innocent” facebook meme pages trying to be roleplay as some store clerk. Then eventually it evolved into more insulting memes. The population is huge so people inevitably run into all sorts of guys, but the negative stereotypes and experiences always get pushed into the spotlight

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, been seeing f*ggot used a lot

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

They always were. Calling people f*g just fell off ten years ago or so. The words changed but the attitude is the same.

[–] iie@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

"this hole was made for me" but it's elon pointing at a ditch

[–] davel@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

𝕏itter is Musk’s dark enlightenment, not-so-crypto-fascist, military-intelligence complex social media platform, so no one should be surprised.