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It sounds like Canada is freaking out about consular offices doing consular office stuff. Wtf is going on?

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[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's nothing else to it than that. It's offices providing services to citizens abroad. Like every western country has.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

I have one of these in my area except it's for Vietnamese immigrants. And yep. It provides language classes, job help services, financial planning, childcare, housing services, help navigating the systems and services of my city, etc. Its completely normal and I know that it's one of the first stops for many immigrants and / or refugees as they get acquainted to a new place.

There's nothing secret about it. If anything it helps people assimilate into their neighborhood. Ridiculous that people think that somehow helping immigrants get comfortable with a new country is somehow a fucking evil plot.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Didn’t this happen last year? Anyway, the British police aaid they didn’t find anything like that

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think last year it was the US freaking out about this same thing

[–] NewAcctWhoDis@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Found the Justice Department press release about this one: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-arrested-operating-illegal-overseas-police-station-chinese-government

Funny how they say "operating a police station" so many times without actually stating what that entails.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, all the articles i could dig up befor ei figured i'd ask here used "police station" and, like, what, is the Beijing metro police over here writing parking tickets or something?

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I think it was last year, but my friend keeps bringing it up and I can't find anything about what the alleged "secret police stations" did except maybe tell people who had criminal charges pending in China that they had criminal charges pending in China.

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

australia revs this one up every year

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

that was basically it as far as i'd heard. canadian gov't has lacklustre language accessibility so chinese citizens need more help navigating it

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

I love shit like this. When it's something so banal that people aren't aware of its existence, so they perceive it as completely unprecedented. But yeah, as far as I'm aware it's just normal consular office stuff as you say.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From what I understand, Chinese consulates in the West have programs to try to convince ex-pats, namely well off ones, to repatriate. Basically, it’s a way to mitigate capital flight. Western media, of course, spin this as “China man has secret police arresting people in our country!”

[–] save_vs_death@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh yeah, the thousand talents progam, which is very public knowledge. Crackers are mad that embargoes cannot be enfored on human beings that might, just like every CEO in any industry, just be persuaded back to china to spill the beans in exchange for a larger paycheck.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

there was one somewhat recently in aus that crackers were pissing over but I didn't look into it very hard

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the lens through which I view all the China scare shit in Canada is that it's 100% just CSIS being jealous that they don't run the fuckin government as much as the CIA does down here, so they're stirring up shit to set up a power grab

there's this CSIS "foreign influence report" being circulated now about some members of government allegedly being assisted by or assisting foreign enemies (read China), and all CBC can report is who has read it and what they think. The Trudeau government to their credit seemed to recognize it as a naked made-up CSIS power grab and didn't immediately cave then name/expel everybody on the list, so now CSIS is trying to stir up shit that this means the Trudeau government is weak and unwilling to take decisive action to expel the communist infiltration. Trudeau for his part seems unwilling to just come out and accuse CSIS leadership of lying for political points.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

just manufacturing consent for the future most destructive war in human history, no big deal

[–] axont@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

I think Canada has just gotten weasely with their legal language to define consulates as police stations. Texas did the same thing by defining spying as "embassy record keeping while being Chinese."

[–] ComradePlatypus@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My understanding is to assist Chinese citizens working abroad (and those eligible for Chinese citizenship) who couldn’t attend embassies and consulates they set up pop centres in areas with high Chinese diaspora populations, in restaurants, corner stores etc. There’s some connection between their civilian police and their immigration services that handle passports etc. Hence the conspiracy tin foil stuff.

But it’s basically just a country making things easier for its population even those overseas especially with covid19 etc.

[–] shreddingitlater@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago
[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

It's a common fascist/lib lie at the moment, claiming the PRC sends "secret police" in foreign nations to heckle "critics" of the CPC.

It's unfounded and bullshit, but people believe it religously.