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[–] khorovodoved@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If xmpp and matrix are included, why not include email?

[–] massacre@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Truly, email is (thankfully) mostly unspoiled as a protocol since it's beginning. Other than minor improvements and additions like HTML and spam filters and the like, anyone can host an email service and interface with anyone else on the Internet with the same protocol.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

anyone can host an email service

Eh, no. You could in the 2000s, nowadays spam protection is so tight, and necessarily that tight, that you need at least a full-time position actively managing the server or you're getting blacklisted for some reason or the other. Other servers will simply not accept emails sent by you if you don't look legit and professional.

Definitely possible for a company with IT department, as a small company you want to outsource it (emails being on your domain doesn't mean you're managing the server), as a hobbyist, well you might be really into it but generally also no. Send protonmail or posteo or whoever a buck or something a month.

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[–] bobbytables@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

And bluesky?

Unpopular opinion maybe but it is / will be a federated platform (whether we like it or not) and there even is a bridge to Mastodon, I think.

[–] cron@feddit.org 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the graphic is too old to include bluesky (2022)

[–] bobbytables@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, you're right. I didn't see the date.

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[–] cron@feddit.org 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This graphic is almost two years old, is it still up to date?

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

not really. kbin is kinda dead. long live mbin

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

mbin is everything I wanted kbin (and lemmy) to be.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What does mbin have that Lemmy does not? Should I switch to mbin?

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you're happy with Lemmy then don't.
This is mostly a mix of personal preferences and neat little differences I enjoy, plus I like the local community.

Then again, if you're curious, check it.

[–] Fitik@fedia.io 5 points 1 year ago

@jaybone@lemmy.world

What does mbin have that Lemmy does not?

IMHO much better integration with the rest of the Fediverse, it supports note type activity (posts without a title, thus supporting most of the Fediverse), it supports adding tags (#hashtags) to threads, it also supports boosting posts and a few more things like that

There will also be PeerTube support soon

@WebWizard@links.hackliberty.org @cron@feddit.org @originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com @massive_bereavement@fedia.io

[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like it's time to make an updated depiction

[–] Fitik@fedia.io 3 points 1 year ago

@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world Yep, I wonder who's the author of it, maybe they can update it

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[–] Echo5@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

does mbin have an app for ios/android yet?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had never heard of mbin. I see it's a fork of kbin. What does it do differently?

its in active development, for starters.

the point of mbin wasnt originally differentiation of any kind, it was that the lone kbin dev did not share duties, or actually develop on a normal timeframe. this behavior kept kbin from flourishing and implementing all kinds of suggested, developed PRs.

it was forked to mbin as a community project where anyone who wants to contribute basically can by committee instead lone stewardship. you would need to check the repo for all the changes per version... but the best part is, its an active dev group.

[–] iso@lemy.lol 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, Nextcloud has AP integration?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, internally and also with a beta-stage Nextcloud Social app, but the builds appear to be out of date and not working that well with the latest Nextcloud installations.

https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-introduces-social-features-joins-the-fediverse/

https://github.com/nextcloud/social

[–] cron@feddit.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The last release is more than three years old... at this point, I'd consider it dead.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

There are still commits being pushed to it in 2024, but a lot of the open issues are talking about errors that apparently were fixed but not provided in a release.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BookWyrm was my first dip into the Fediverse, back when I was looking for an alternative to Goodreads.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Really surprised it's the only book related fork of the fediverse here

Do people not read any more?

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think this is the exact cause for the situation, but having more book related forks would probably just do harm by splitting up the audience. The book reading trackers are absolutely dominated by Goodreads, and any alternative desperately needs as much user concentration as possible.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think you can correlate the number of readers to the number of book instances or whatever they're called. Most people (myself included) probably just use Goodreads, and BookWyrm is probably a good enough alternative that there's no need to spin up another.

Edit: according to this there's a lot of instances: https://joinbookwyrm.com/instances/

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Most people I know who read a lot use StoryGraph, and mostly for personal tracking, not as a social app.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I know Threads sucks, but where would it fall on this? Another Networking one?

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It would be an enemy aircraft hovering above the trees with a flamethrower, threatening to burn them down

[–] tektite@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago

Ohh so THAT'S what all those "I identify as an attack helicopter" people were talking about!

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It is the aggressive megacolony of fungus embedding its mycelia in the base of the tree

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 5 points 1 year ago

Yes as it is almost the same category as mastodon

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If we're including xmpp and matrix, then we should include Email 🤭

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[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wish there was one for jobs :(

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 11 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't get used by corps probably?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I want a MySpace clone. Does that exist as an open source project in the fediverse?

[–] laxe@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Love it! Now we just need a guy named Tom, and a super potato quality camera for Toms profile pic.

[–] Jank@literature.cafe 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're all Tom on OurSpace.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Not fediverse, but a personal website on Neocities is customizable

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've been missing an alternative to Facebook that I can use for non-anonymous planning of events and communication in hobby groups etc. and I had never heard of any of the "Facebook-type" federated stuff before!

Now I just need to convince a bunch of people that this is viable to use without being the annoying guy...

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[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keeping an eye out for the matrix commune-os project to get to ActivityPub support. Them and Forgejo and Gitlab work to add AP support!

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Lot of love for GitLab, it's a solid enterprise product.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Genghis@monero.town 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nostr must be a bigger tree

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Wow, that's more than I thought!

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