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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 45 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

And half of voters are voting for it.

I just listened to a "undecided voters deliberate" and I want to pull my fucking hair out.

(The only redeeming point is these weren't undecided as in they change their vote all the time, they were lifelong Republican voters who are now undecided. Still bad.)

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I would argue that 99% of voters are voting for it.

A good example is Democrats' response to Roe vs Wade repeal. That is to say, except for fundraising, there wasn't one. They raked in a cool $80 million though: https://apnews.com/article/abortion-us-supreme-court-elections-campaigns-8a6e3db27082cc212e9e5183b25e7c32.

When one side actively perpetrates fascism and the other side does nothing to stop it, the difference in rhetoric means absolutely nothing to me.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 8 months ago

Most Americans support ranker choice voting, universal healthcare, paid maternity leave, freedom of choice, etc.

The people aren't the problem, the system is. Our corrupt 2 party system is destroying the US. The only way to save this country is to replace it with a modern multi-party proportional representation system like the system we helped the Germans create after ww2.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What are you on about, she said she wants Roe back. This just reeks of b b b but dems bad!!

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So did Joe Biden.

The problem is he did nothing meaningful to restore it. My point is simple: It doesn't matter what you say if you're not going to use the power you have in order to make the change.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It essentially wasn't overturned until he lost the House of Reps. They need House majority, senate majority, presidency, and get rid of the filibuster (which wasn't going to happen with Manchin). All 4 to pass that legislation. It's going to be tough to get them all.

But you don't care about any of that. Your ~~point~~ misinformation is simple: B b b b b but Dems bad!1!!

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The ACA and the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act were both passed with a simple majority.

Put simply, you are incorrect. Hard things are possible if a president is willing to work for the; Sadly, Biden was not.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Other things took simple majority, therefore this would take a simple majority too? Outstanding logic. By that logic no one has every filibustered anything, right? If Dobbs was something the GOP wanted, they would have filibustered it.

lol so thanks for exposing your goal of misinformation. I see no point in continuing to rebut your mental gymnastics, so ciao.

*ACA was passed 60-39, supermajority.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Unlike you, I won't accept that it's okay to do nothing because something is challenging.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Who said I accept nothing? Simply because I lay out what needs to happen, while you live in la la land of "president just needs to want it". Why am I bothering with your nonsense replies, you need to do some reading. Ciao.

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not today they don't. Kids are SUPER aware it's happening. It's not the kids driving us off a cliff though

[–] gencha@lemm.ee 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago

That's crazy it was in high school and not college. I can't imagine high school teachers and admin allowing all of that.

Really great lesson though.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

I highly recommend reading the book "The Wave" (fictional but based on that experiment)

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Also, really, they didn't. It's just impossible to know or tell all the small ways people tried to make the situation better.

From Germany, to Poland, to Britain the era of Nazism is replete with stories of people who resisted in big and small ways. That's the part of the story I like to focus on; how so many did small bits of good with their own two hands because it's all they could do.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The irony is that the the Holocaust was actually hidden to much of the German populace and most of the heinous war crimes were only uncovered after the Genocide was over.

At least we now know that even with full knowledge of what happened in Germany most people would still have supported their "lesser evil" Fuhrer.

[–] zeephirus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

US forces liberated the Buchenwald concentration camp in Germany in April 1945. Here, US soldiers escort German civilians from the nearby town of Weimar through the Buchenwald camp. The American liberating troops had a policy of forcing German civilians to view the atrocities committed in the camps.

Indeed but it was after the Nazis already lost.

[–] pooperNickel@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

At least we know you who you want in the Whitehouse