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It appears Trump is going to be the next president of US. I'm not sure such a thread is needed in the first place, but here goes.

Feeling anxious? Desperate? Got the expected result?

What do you think went wrong? What do you think went right? What do you think the future holds?

EDIT: it's official - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2024/us/results

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[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think the stock market will probably crash at some point during the Trump admin.

I think the tariffs will cause a massive rise in prices.

I think the mass deportation scheme will end in death camps.

I think those death camps will grow to include lgbtq+ people.

I just keep stopping and crying.

[–] Ismay@programming.dev 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As a non American, the only hope for the world is to let you guys sink and for the US to implode. EU should have realized that 8 years ago and plan accordingly to reduce dependencies but did not.

I can't even fathom the fascism wave we're going to get everywhere...

Why did we have to choose the dystopian future ?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

The problem is that we're going to take the rest of the world with us.

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[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 33 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I feel bad for the palestinians, they don't have much hope left.

Way to go tankies! You sure showed those damn Palestinians that Israel owns Gaza. Great work!

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[–] Wytch@lemmy.cafe 33 points 1 year ago

I'm broken. I'm so tired of it and now I fear it's really all over. It's not 4 years, it's a revelation. We really are full of irredeemable hateful idiots. I'm not ok. I fear for our queer brothers and sisters. I fear for our families and neighbors. For our future livelihoods.

I'm afraid we're not all gonna make it out of this.

I don't know if this is the tipping point. But it feels like a mountain has fallen, in my heart. I want to crawl away. When I was just getting myself together. These next four years will be hell on earth for me. I'm going back on my meds

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just keep asking myself, "What are you supposed to do when your country falls into fascism?"

But even more so, I'm heartbroken for my distant relatives and everyone else in Ukraine.

Please, Europe--don't let them fall.

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[–] Blaze@lemmy.cafe 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not American. Sorry for you guys

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Am American. Voted for Harris, not that it mattered in California.

I'm truly sorry to the rest of the world. We just fucked over everyone. Like however bad you think it's going to be, it will probably be worse. I don't know where anyone could possibly go to survive what is coming, because he's going to plow through the last tipping points on climate change and ensure that the planet is an unliveable hell scape.

[–] Alice@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago

I've hated this entire election year because the MAGAs are riled up and I've been getting harassment for masking, being vaxxed, and (apparently) looking queer.

(I am queer, but I went back to presenting as a cishet woman ages ago. I don't know what their deal is)

Yesterday a guy came into work with a confederate flag tattooed across his scalp. They might as well scream everywhere they go that they support slavery.

I'd love to get on T while it's still legal but the only gender clinic nearby got set on fire.

I think it's only going to get worse now that they're emboldened. Their hatred has once again been rewarded.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like the not-right will just take it. Just accept things. Go into the concentration camp. Let the government be dismantled. Let laws be ignored.

The right wing is full of bad ideas and hate but they organize and sometimes riot.

Everyone else seems too busy infighting and being smug.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you want to start the direct action to disrupt their agenda or should I? If we do that, our lives are over. If we don't do it, our lives may be over at a later date or it may only make it unpleasant.

There lies the problem. You have to have enough people willing to give it all and this country does not allow for that because at every moment we are desperately trying to survive. Hard to fight back from that position.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was thinking about this, and how it's hard to organize without being infiltrated by cops or bootlickers.

And yeah as much as I want to thanos snap away the right wing, I don't want to die or go to jail.

But somehow the right wing got a whole riot going for their Jan 6 insurrection. They're not any richer. Just more hateful and stupid.

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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't have any hope for carbon neutrality in the first place. My hope was for more of maybe a "falling with style" path to self-destruction for humanity, and not a head-first dive into the concrete.

That said, I'm 36, male, white and blue collar, so is my family. I have no concerns over them, but I keep and hold my concern for the rest of America.

Politically, I consider America a lost cause. I am currently looking towards avenues to become less politically involved, if only because now with an entirely conservative government, I don't see any real reason to care.

I'll probably spend the next four years reading 40k lore.

[–] count_dongulus@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When reading 40k is the less grimdark option

At least the Emperor has a plan to become a new Chaos God, this dip shit thinks his hamburger eating ass isn't dead in a decade regardless.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We’re all (earth) gonna get all the ugly that happened 100 years ago on the nose and everyone who voted for trump or didn’t vote at all will wonder why. Market crash Ww3 Interment camps Greatest depression

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 5 points 1 year ago

An uninhabitable planet.

[–] YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

I'm fucked man. I'm disabled and can't work, I just got disability benefits approved. I've known since 2016 that no "progressive" country will accept a disabled immigrant as a citizen even if they can work. I checked again today and nothing has changed. I stumbled on a reddit thread chastising an OP with autism (plus children with disabilities) for being in a similar position as me and bemoaning it, because why would a country accept a disabled person who doesn't benefit them after all, fuck disabled people reddit says. I can't even use my back pay to move countries since no one wants me. I wanted to either invest my back pay or use it to move countries if shit hit the fan, which is so out of reach now. Both of my parents are from Puerto Rico so there is no ancestral place I can run to. I never completed college because of my disability which appeared when I was a teenager and gets worse every year. My (not married and able-bodied) partner's ancestry is China and I told them they should move countries without me to get away but they want to stay with me even if it means being in this hellhole. I want to have a child when I am ready, but I am scared of a national ban on abortion which would endanger me if I was pregnant. My future feels over. So yeah, my depression and anxiety are in overdrive. Feeling desperate.

My state voted Kamala, they always vote for the conservative democrat and are worth very little electoral votes, insignificant really. I consistently voted Bernie, begrudgingly democrat, and this time around for PSL. My vote doesn't matter, I know that because of the way the electoral college is setup. Every local progressive I voted for lost to a conservative democrat. This time around there were no progressives on the ballot that I could root for, only democrats I have zero faith in that I voted for anyway. Most of the people around me do not vote because they they think it does not matter and everything is rigged. I mean it doesn't really matter I guess since Kamala won my state anyway and lost but fuck man. Shit is looking really bleak for me. I wish Bernie or De la Cruz won but that is just a pipe dream I guess. Kamala never inspired me, she wasn't really a progressive leftist and I did not think she would fix the country. Only maintain the status quo. I can only hope for a revolution now.

MLK Jr was a radical with socialist ideas. There's so many quotes to choose from during his later years but this seems most apt for me for now:

“If America does not use her vast resources of wealth to end poverty and make it possible for all of God’s children to have the basic necessities of life, she too will go to hell.”

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago
[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Feeling like Kassandra. All the data showed that this was a possible scenario but both far-leftists and libs thought it was over-reacting.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got the news right before bed, so I didn't sleep. As the cool headed one in my family, I'm having to give pep talks to folks who are genuinely very frightened but there isn't really anyone to do the same for me--- plus, being more informed than my family, I'm also the most likely to actually know how fucked we are.

This isn't a great morning and I still have to teach a class later at an all women's university.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel better, the one genuine silver lining I’ve found is my family in the military say that the odds of these chucklefucks getting full military support is very unlikely.

But is such a small silver lining…

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's only good for the threat of him trying to use the military on his own people. Small silver lining indeed.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago

I'm unhappy.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm going to use my white, middle class straight-passing privilege to get the fuck out of here is what I'm going to do.

What went wrong?

Humanity evolving consciousness.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Use that natural camouflage to your advantage. Take notes. Remember who betrayed their community, and ensure they are shunned when the time comes for us all to have to look to each other for help.

[–] geoff@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

The heartbreak is such that today I feel like I want to give up on the entire concept of caring for others as a futile pursuit. Humanity’s darkest impulses are going to be off-leash here, and elsewhere, for at least four years, the chances of avoiding rapid catastrophic climate change have gone from maybe 20% to 0%, and it feels like nothing matters.

Trying to focus on caring just for myself and my family, but the flame has seemingly gone out.

[–] Quexotic 8 points 1 year ago

My kid got sick and was puking. I jumped at the chance to take some PTO to take a day off. It was a welcome distraction. I fell asleep on the couch holding her while she watched kids shows. That's about all I could bring myself to do. I don't have much left in me anymore. Just gotta take care of the kids and be ready to leave the country.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I feel like we might need to radicalize, in a sense, if you know what I mean.

but of course it won't happen. because we're not like them, and we can't do that

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