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[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 139 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, this can be a generational cultural difference.

I mourned the death of my grandfather three separate times when my mother texted me "please call". Each time when I called back I learned something different:

  1. We had to change our lunch plans.
  2. There was an alarming local news article about driving conditions.
  3. My grandfather had died.
[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If these were all in the same day that's quite the series of events

[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Lol. Different days. But at least I got to get through a few of the stages of grief early.

[–] Urbanfox@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The last time my dad called was 16 years ago when my mum was bleeding out after surgery and we didn't know if she was going to make it.

Other than that, it's WhatsApp messages, and they're usually about the dog.

I would 100% think someone had died if my dad called.

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[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] orangeboats@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

This is probably family dependent. My family is similar to OP's, we usually text if we want to have casual conversations. Voice calls are limited to serious topics only... unless I text them "hey, let's have a call" or something like that first.

[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 56 points 2 years ago (15 children)

Are zoomers really like this?

[–] Ataraxia@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm 40. I don't even answer the phone if it rings. If it's important they can leave a message.

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[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sorry if I don't think minor topics are worthy of the immediate attention needed for a phone call?

Phone calls are reserved for emergencies. Otherwise you're just demanding the instant attention of someone for nothing.

[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (31 children)

Not demanding, asking. Declining a call is always an option.

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago

I like to compare calling to someone knocking on your door incessantly for several seconds.

You can ignore it or decline to answer. It's still annoying af.

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[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Phone calls aren't reserved for anything. They're just phone calls. I'm a huge introvert but it's like in one particular way millions of people decided to try and be the most annoying introvert possible

[–] mercury@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't think all zoomers are, but a LOT of the people I know are TERRIFIED of phone calls. I was like that too, before I started applying for jobs and had to make like 3 calls a week.

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[–] Shave_MyBeever@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Gen-x'r here who doesn't even have the phone app on my home screen.

Fuck phone calls!

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Nobody is actually this terrified of a phone call right? Besides the usual social anxiety anyway.

My father's phone doesn't even have internet, hell, they barely built a computer that could beat Nazi encryption back when he was born, he didn't even see his first computer in person until he was what, 50?

He struggles at testing, no way could he navigate a modern phone haha. So, phone calls are normal for us :-)

[–] solstice@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

You and your dad sound like what, millennial and Boomer? You're definitely not Gen Z or younger though I'm assuming.

I'm 40 so elder millennial I guess. I like Gen Z overall but goddamn do they SUCK at using the damn phone. I train a lot of 22-24yo kids at work and they truly are terrified of phone calls. Video call, friggin forget it man. Like they might turn on their camera once if I directly ask or tell them but it's a battle every time.

This is the same generation that's demanding full remote, and they refuse to actually communicate remotely. It's really frustrating and annoying. How in the world do you expect to function in a group if you can't or won't communicate with people in real time? Do they really expect to go to their entire careers only texting or emailing?

Again I like them overall, they are very smart educated and resourceful, but their communication absolutely fucking sucks. So yeah this comic is super accurate but I don't find it funny.

[–] Phlogiston@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How in the world do you expect to function in a group if you can’t or won’t communicate with people in real time?

wow. i thought it was just me.

I've got really good people on the team -- but only if you trust them go do stuff with zero communications and then the pop back up with completed work. Which is kinda ok if you don't need to do any team projects. Its driving me nuts and I totally see why some managers are like "fuck it, get your ass into the same room". Its simply easier than coaching people on how to be slightly better than a chatbot.

[–] solstice@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

What a breath of fresh air your comment is, thank you. The sheer absolute HATE I've been getting in this thread and others is so incredibly toxic and frustrating. I'm literally at the point where I'm like, you know what, you're right, stay the fuck at home and stay away from my team because I don't need that vitriol in my life.

I saw a thread recently here or on Reddit maybe hating on presentations and group assignments in school. It wasn't until I got to management that I realized how incredibly important those skills are.

Personally I'm convinced that it isn't "people don't want to work anymore." More like "people fucking suck at working together, on big projects, remotely, and friggin communicating as a team. So the sucky deadweight employees don't do squat, and the good ones are frustrated as hell, overburdened with their shithead colleagues work that the rest of us have to do now.

Sorry for the rant but this is fucking my shit up big time, and it's really hard getting all this pure hatred online by toxic people who refuse to even pick up the damn phone when I call to ask "how did you compute such and such" or whatever.

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[–] travysh@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

My dad is probably about the same age (currently 81)

He didn't touch a computer until the mid 2000s, and he just wanted to be able to email. It was a looooong journey to get him comfortable doing that.

Since he got a smart phone he texts literally every day, has installed a number of apps himself, can mostly get new services working himself (he did Amazon Prime, with some mild hand holding).

If anything, I call him more then he calls me!

It's doable :)

[–] ______@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm not NT so I like having the freedom and time to cook up good responses to texts that I can't make on the spot in a call.

(Btw not saying that NT people can do that easily but they seem to always be able to think quick on their feet socially speaking)

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[–] snor10@lemm.ee 46 points 2 years ago (17 children)

???

Why would she react like that to a phonecall?

[–] Royal_Bitch_Pudding@lemmy.world 95 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Young people don't call unless it's serious business.

Why she reacted like that while also knowing her dad still calls people? No idea

[–] WaltJRimmer@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago

Not just young people. I've seen this kind of behavior in surprisingly old people such as Gen X and even Baby Boomers, but I've seen it in a LOT of millennials, the youngest of whom are now in their early thirties and the oldest are in their forties.

[–] Psyduck_world@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Not just young people. I am 48, and if I get a call from my mom I would’ve thought something happened to my dad.

[–] IonAddis@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep. Basically any generation that grew up with texting and chat kinda leans this way... so millennials and younger. But also some gen x.

Phone calls are for things that can't wait and need the other person to drop what they're doing, and things urgent like that tend to be medical or work stuff. Or things time sensitive in another way.

Demanding the other person stop what they're doing to attend to you immediately is considered kinda rude for minor topics when such an easy and less pushy alternative is available.

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[–] AnonStoleMyPants@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago

Lmao this thread is so weird to read. My parents call me all the time to ask how I am. I also call them. And my friend from time to time and he calls me. Samesies for my fiancée. Normal stuff.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Because phonecalls are reserved for when you immediately with no delay need someone.

Asking about a show is not one of those cases.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 37 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Or just want to talk to someone? Why are we simultaneously normalizing anti-social behavior and wondering why the young people are so unhappy?

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Crippling socal anxiety

[–] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

In our family it looks exactly like this, that's why I found it very funny :)

We usually just chat (or videochat) and when f.e. dad randomly calls me then it's some serious business. And for that brief moment my mind jumps to most catastrophic scenarios why he could be calling me. And I think it goes both ways because when I call dad the first question usually is "Hi, did something happen?"

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[–] Rin@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago

I think this is a skill issue

[–] AnanasMarko@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

To me it feels texting takes longer. Call someone up and it's done in less than a minute. Why write some long ass message?

Most folks don't even bother writing back... Message seen? Best forget about it.

Edit: typo

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This comic strip is flawed… nobody who would react that way to a phone call would have their phone out of silent mode.

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So many people (myself included) text as the default method of phone communication.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In some cases it's more practical as you can keep multitasking. Especially for work I like when people send me emails or chat messages instead of holding meetings or barging into office, even worse video calls.

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[–] Alenalda@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

I have to call people for work to let them know when I'll arrive to provide the service. 3/4 of the time nobody answers, of those half either don't have vm setup or it is full and won't take an messages. The only people who do pick up are the elderly.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago

Man, I'd kill to receive a phone call from my family. Or a text. Or an email. Or a letter.

[–] WolfyGamer29@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As someone with an autism induced fear of phone calls, this comment section is really mean ;-;

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